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                    <text>Sister Jean Kulangara
I was born on the 2​nd​ of June, 1947 to my parents K.P. George Kulangara and Mary
George Kulangara. My father was a merchant and my mother a housewife. I lost my
mother at a young age. To some extent, I played the role of a mother to my younger
siblings, especially my youngest brother, Sunny. We are seven children and I am the
fourth in line. I have four brothers and two sisters. All of my siblings are married and well
settled in life.
Both my father and mother were very religious minded people. They encouraged us to
go for daily Mass and weekly confession. I was very regular in religious activities in the
church and in the school. Every evening, the family gathered together to say evening
prayer which lasted one hour. Unlike any other children from my childhood, I had a
special liking for prayer. Both my parents had devotion to the Blessed Sacrament. My
mother convinced me of Jesus’ presence in the Eucharist. From my childhood, I wanted
to be a religious and cherished that desire.
In my childhood, I used to pray to Mother Mary to make me a Sister – a good Sister.
Surprisingly, on the 1​st​ of January 1962, a priest I did not know told me that God was
calling me to be a religious, and I should say “Yes” to Him. I felt that this priest was
God’s angel to me. I was so excited and happy about this message because it was what
I had been asking God and Mother Mary.
June 1966, I left home for Mokama. Everything was totally new for me - the language,
food, culture, weather, etc. None of these things mattered to me because my desire to
be a missionary was great. I did miss home and my family members, but I was mostly
concerned about learning English and Hindi. As I learned the language, I was happy
because I could communicate with the people of Mokama. I made my first profession in
1970 and final vows in 1975. I was extremely happy on both occasions.
My first mission was in Mahuadanr. I felt happy that I could teach well in the school. I
was very active and used my talents to teach, dance, and sing. In the evenings, after a
day of teaching, we went out to the villages to visit the people. I liked the simple life
style of the village and mission. In Mahuadanr, Sisters Marianne Puthoor, Rosemarie
Lakra, and I were asked to help out in the retreat for the students. I counselled a few
students and conducted prayer services with them. I felt it was a rare privilege to share
an experience of God with the students. From my teaching job, I was appointed as the
principal of the school. I have been both teacher and principal in different schools and I
feel that I have been successful in my career as a teacher and principal.
Although I did not volunteer to go to Nepal, I was happy that I was chosen to go.
Initially, I spent a few months learning Nepali. I learned the language fast because I like
to talk to people and spend time with them. I worked as a social worker and taught
Nepali, sewing, knitting, etc. Thus, many girls were helped to earn their livelihood. I was
a pioneer in Dharan and continued similar work helping the poor women and girls.
Later, I was the vice principal of the school. I enjoyed working in the school, though we
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�had to face a lot of problems with Maoists in that area. God helped us, and we
experienced God’s protection every moment of our life. Here I would like to say that I
am an easygoing person and God has gifted me with a gentle and pleasant approach to
people. When anything happens, I take a “let it be” attitude. So much so that people
say, “Jean is cool as cucumber”! I did not go through any big crisis in my life except my
mother’s death when I was fourteen years old. I love my SCN community. I was and am
happy in my mission wherever I was and am.
I was happy to be chosen to serve in another foreign country when I was sent to Belize.
There I did pastoral ministry in the parish in Belize City. I worked as a counsellor in the
school and parish. I helped the women to read and write and do some art work like
making baskets. I prepared a group of boys and girls to write class X exam. Later, one
of the boys who got a job working in USA, told one of the Sisters “It is because of Sister
Jean I have reached here”. I was delighted to hear this and thanked God for using me to
help people.
For two years, I worked in Nazareth Hospital in Mokama as a counsellor and pastoral
Sister. I consider these years especially blessed because I was able to give an
experience of God to people by my gentle, loving listening. I hope and pray that God will
use me to touch many more hearts and to be able to give and experience of God to
more people by my gentle, loving presence and listening. I call myself a “Jack of all
trades and master of none”.
I have had a tangible experience of God, especially during my retreats. I felt Jesus was
walking with me, or I was walking along with Him. I particularly like to recount one such
experience in Ranchi. Toward the end of the retreat, some of us fasted for three days.
The third day I spent a lot of time in prayer. It was midnight, and no one else was
around. I was alone in the chapel. All of a sudden I began to pray in tongues, praising
and thanking God without my being aware of it. I experienced God and was overjoyed
and peaceful.
I am happy that we care for both physically and mentally challenged, and work for the
welfare of children and women. We must continue these ministries and take up
providing homes for the aged and care for the poor and marginalized, as well.
My wish for the SCNs would be that people see us as praying Sisters rather than
professionals running good schools, hospitals, etc. People do not see us as simple,
maybe because of our dress which is not simple in appearance. I wonder if people see
us as religious.
As I look back, these are few of my reflections on life and the SCNs: When I was small
and even in my high school days, I thought religious life was to pray because I used to
see Sisters praying a lot. Later, I realized that Jesus said to us “Love God and love one
another”. For this I need to pray and be united with God. Jesus also said “Give the good
news to all”. This means give Jesus to all, through my life and ministry.

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�For me, religious life is a pleasant experience. I have enjoyed my life in the SCN
community. It is where I have experienced a lot of joy and happiness, though I faced
difficulties and problems in few places. Today, as I look back at my life, I can say I have
forgiven all and feel assured of forgiveness from others. I worked in the capacity of
coordinator, teacher, principal and administrator and I feel I have done my best. My
motto in life was and is “To live and let others live”.
For me, prayer and community life are very important and are two pillars of my religious
life. If my life is built on these two pillars, my mission will prosper and my life will
automatically be a Good News to all.
My message to the young members is that we need to be a praying community to help
us in community living – where love and care is experienced. This will automatically flow
out to our mission, and our mission will flourish. Loved and strengthened in community,
we move out to our mission to love and strengthen others.

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                    <text>My Life Story 
 
I,  Chinnamma  was  born  on  February  20,  1944  to  Mathai  and  Mariam 
Urumpil  in a small parish called Thodanal, Kottayam District, Kerala State. 
We  were  eleven  children  in  our  family  -  seven  boys  and  four  girls.  My 
parents  lost  two  sons  before  I  was  born.  In  chronological  order  they  are: 
Mathai;  late  Annamma;  late  Chacko;  Sebastian;  late  Joseph;  late  Chacko, 
CMI;  late  Devasia;  Thomas;  Chinnamma,  (Joel,  SCN);  Mary  (late  Sunanda, 
SCN)  and  Philo.  In  1991,  Sister  Sunanda  died  unexpectedly  of  cerebral 
malaria  while  serving  in  Sale,  Mahuadanr.  We  belonged  to  an  ordinary 
peasant family.  My mother was only five years old when her parents passed 
away.  She had also a three-year old sister and their grandmother managed 
to  bring  them  up.  Sadly  my  father  was  put  out  of  his  home  by  his  elder 
brother.  For a couple of years he worked as a daily wage labourer near my 
mother’s  place.  Later he married my mother and settled in her home since 
she  had  no  brothers.  My  father  was  simple  and  devoted  to  the  family 
especially to my mother who being an orphan needed the extra affection and 
care which my father provided.  My brothers and father worked very hard to 
provide for us with basic minimum facilities. 
  
Like most children, I had a carefree childhood and enjoyed playing outdoors 
with my five brothers.  My brothers tried to discipline me but I wanted to be 
equal  with  them.  I  played  freely  with  the  children  in  the  neighbourhood 
regardless of their caste or religion.  As I grew older I took care of the goats 
and helped on the farm.  My mother and sisters-in-law did all the household 
work  and  I  did  not  have  to  help  them  out  in  any  way.  My  mother  was 
sociable  and  a  friend  to  the  poor  and  she  was  popular  among  the 
neighbours.  To me she was like a friend or an older sister.  Once I forgot to 
take  my  tiffin  (midday  meal)  to  school  and  she  brought  it  to  me  walking 
three kilometres.  A beggar used to come to our home once a month and my 
parents treated him like a member of our own family.   
 
One  of  the  outstanding  memories  of  my  childhood  is  my  First  Holy 
Communion day.  The teacher asked me to get flowers from the neighbour’s 
garden  to  make  the wreaths.  Also, since I was good in singing, I was given 
the  privilege  of  leading  the  hymn just after receiving Communion.  Another 
happy  memory  of  mine  is  that  of  spending  time  with  my  father  and  the 
workers  in  the  field  planting  ginger  and  doing  other kinds of work.  Eating 
with them in the open field was a picnic for me.  I also enjoyed playing in the 
stream,  plucking  wild  flowers  and  reading  some  books  on  St.  Francis  of 
Assisi.    ​Since  I  was  not  very  strong  physically,  I  also  wanted  to  prove  to 
others that I could do anything like everybody else.   
 
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�I  had  my  primary  education  in  our  parish  school.  I  went  to  N.S.S.  (Nair 
Service  Society)  Middle  School,  Poovarani  run  by  Nairs,  a  Hindu  group. 
Though I was a Catholic the teachers liked and encouraged me.  I was good 
in  my  mother  tongue,  Malayalam  and  sports.  I  had  many  friends  in  the 
school.   
 
For  Class  VIII  I  went  to  a  school  run  by  the  Adoration  Sisters  at 
Kanjiramattom.  My father, however, wanted to stop me from further studies 
after  my  passing  Class  VIII.  I  was  not  very  happy  about  it  because  my 
father allowed my older brother to continue his studies even though he had 
failed in Class VIII.  I was very angry with my father and refused to eat for a 
whole  day.  But  that  did  not  work.  Two  weeks  later,  the  Sisters  sent  a 
teacher  to  our  home  to  find  out  why  I  was  absent.  Though  they  tried  to 
persuade  my  father  it  was  my  brother  Chacko’s  strong  argument  that 
changed  his mind.  I was the first girl to pass matriculation examination in 
1961.  The  same  brother  arranged  for  me  to  go  to  Mokama  for  nurses’ 
training  that  year.  I  was  the  first  girl  to  leave  our village for studies and I 
was  overjoyed.  I  also  wanted  to  get  out  of  my  home  soon  because  I  was 
afraid that they would marry me off at any time, as was the custom.   
 
I  found  it  difficult  to  adjust  to  the  way  of  life  in  Bihar  especially  the  food 
habits.  We  had  to  learn  two  new  languages  (English  and  Hindi) 
simultaneously.  The  misery  of  the  people  around  Mokama  moved  me  to 
tears.  As I ate my normal food in the hostel after my training, the thought of 
people  who  were  starving  often  came  to  my  mind.  From  then  on  I  had  a 
desire to work with the poor after my training.  
  
My  call  to  religious life may have its beginning with the singing and square 
dance practices that Mary Jude Howard, SCN, conducted for the nurses, the 
candidates and novices.  I was happy about this opportunity to mingle with 
the youngsters in SCN formation.  Seeing me in action, our nursing director, 
Sister  Veronica  Maria  (Ora  Mae)  Brownfield  told  Sister  Marita  Ann  (Teresa 
Rose) Nabholz, the candidate director, that I might have a religious vocation. 
One day Sister Teresa Rose asked me if I was interested in joining the SCNs. 
It was as though I was waiting for an invitation and I said, “Yes.”  One of my 
brothers was very angry when he heard about it.   
 
I  joined  the  candidacy  in  September  1962  while  I  continued  my  nursing 
studies.  My companions were Maria Palathingal, Lucia Thuluvanickel (now 
deceased) and Karuna Thottumarickal, also nursing students. As candidates 
we used to go to the villages with the public health department.  Every time I 
was  with  the  very  poor  people  I  felt  uncomfortable  as I had the privilege of 
having everything I needed. My urge to work with them continued.   
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� 
Teresa Xavier Ponnazhath, a trained teacher and Rosemarie Lakra, already a 
trained staff nurse, joined our group.  Since we were older, our group had a 
shorter  period  of  postulancy  than  others.  We  were  a  close  knit group and 
have been together for the last fifty-six years.  It was a sad day for us when 
Sister Lucia was called to eternal life on November 10, 2017.  
  
Sister  Teresa  Rose was our director through the candidacy, postulancy and 
novitiate.  Other  teachers  were  Sisters  Patricia  Mary  Kelley,  Rita 
Puthenkalam,  Margaret  Rodericks  and  Mary  Celeste  (Gail)  Collins.  Sister 
Josephine  Naduvilekunnel  who  later  discontinued  taught  us  Hindi.  Sister 
Mary  Jude  took  us  for  singing  and  spoken  English.  We  were  twenty-four 
postulants  and  novices,  at  one  time.  Sister  Teresa  Rose  encouraged  us  to 
write  short  stories.  I  believe  one  of  my  stories  written  in  Malayalam 
influenced one of our Sisters to join the SCNs.  Our formative years were the 
happiest when we were moulded by experienced SCNs who were like potters 
at their wheels.   
 
During  our  novitiate  days  we  had  strict  discipline  of  keeping  silence, 
responding  to  our  duties  by  the  ringing  of  a  bell,  common  recreation,  etc. 
On  visiting  Sundays  we  were  allowed  to  mingle with the nurses and senior 
Sisters  for  an  hour  or  so.  During  recreation  we  made  rosaries,  sorted  out 
used  stamps  and  there  was  plenty  of  singing.  We  would  wait  for  the  day 
when we were allowed to write letters to our family.  The six of us were also 
given the duty of helping the new candidates and postulants to get adjusted 
to  religious  life.  We  were  also  given  time  to  read  books,  practice  dramas, 
dance,  debate,  etc.  I  liked  the  books  on  the  lives  of  saints  such  as  Br. 
Martin  de  Porres,  St.  Therese  of  ​Lisieux​,  St.  Joseph,  the  Worker  and 
whatever books were available on St. Francis of Assisi.   
 
I  made  my  First  Vows  on  July  19,  1968.  I  was  ready  to  give  myself 
completely  to  God,  to  go  to  the ends of the earth and serve the poor.  After 
six  months  of  juniorate  training  in  Ranchi  I  was  sent  for  Public  Health 
Nursing  at  Lady  Reading  School  of  Nursing,  Delhi.  My  companion  was 
Bridget  Vadakeattam,  SCN.  This  study  again  re-enforced  my  attraction  to 
work among the under privileged and oppressed. 
 
My  first  assignment  was  to  be  one  of  the  pioneers  in  our  Bakhtiarpur 
mission with Sisters Mary Frances Sauer and Lucia Thuluvanickel in 1971. 
Although  I  had  completed  my  Public  Health  Nursing,  I  had  no  practical 
experience but I was ready, enthusiastic to do anything.  I was put in charge 
of the tuberculosis (TB) control/eradication program along with the Medical 
Mission  Sisters (MMS) at Maner.  Those were hectic days with a lot of work 
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�to do.  Dealing with the flood victims was an annual feature of our ministry 
but it was a very satisfying work.   
 
Sister  Mary  Frances  was  the  administrator  of  our  health  centre  in 
Bakhtiarpur.  She  was  my  mentor  and  a  loving  older  Sister  who  loved  the 
poor.  At  times  we  found  her  impatient  but  she  always  made  sure  to  ask 
pardon  from  anyone  who  may  have  been  offended  by  her.  Her  spirit  of 
humility  was  an inspiration to all of us.  On Saturdays Rev. Father William 
Goudreau,  SJ,  was  a  welcome  guest  for  prayer  and  supper.  We  shared 
freely  about  our  ministry  together.  We  worked  together  as  people  in  one 
mission with the sole purpose of helping the poor.  They guided me to lead 
an exemplary missionary life.  Once we found a sick beggar woman with her 
son  on  the  railway  platform.  Sister  Mary  Frances  and  I  carried her to our 
clinic  and  ministered  to  her  for  four  days.  The  lady  was  very upset in the 
beginning  but  as  the  time  came  closer  to  her  death  she  became  very  calm 
and she died in our arms.  During the emergency, I became interested in the 
work  of  the  social  activists.  I  was  allowed  to  travel  to  Chaibasa  alone  to 
attend  their  (underground)  meetings.  There  were  both  lay  and  religious 
people in the group. 
 
At  the  end  of  the  five-year  TB  program.  I  myself  became  a  victim  of  the 
sickness and was advised to take rest in Mokama.  After that I worked in the 
Public  Health  Centre  there  for  two  years.  I  initiated  the  “Village  Health 
Workers  Program”  in  and  around  Mokama.  In  expanding  the  clinic,  more 
facilities  were  provided  at  a  low  cost  for  the  poor.  I  got  help  from  Sister 
Xavier  Valiakunnackal,  SCN,  (deceased)  in  conducting  family  counselling 
and singing for the village women.  
  
My  pioneering  in  the  Nepal  mission  in  April  1979  was  another  important 
chapter  in  my  life  and  a  faith  experience.  I  learnt  to  adjust  to  living  in  a 
foreign country with a new group of people, their language, culture, extreme 
weather  conditions,  etc.  I  understood  what  daring  and  risk  taking  meant 
when  I  walked  for  three  days  at  a  stretch  and  spent  the  nights  at wayside 
shelters.  I  did  not  feel  burdened  because  it  was  my  choice  to  visit  a  few 
Christians  who  lived  on  the  mountains.  After  visiting  many  villages  away 
from  Kathmandu,  we,  Anne  Marie  Thayilchirayil,  Jean  Kulangara  and  I 
decided to work in a village in Godavari near St. Xavier’s School.   
 
One day, Rev. Father Alan Starr visited us and he shared with us the plight 
of the Christians scattered throughout the valley.  They were Catholics from 
Darjeeling in India who had migrated to Nepal looking for jobs.  Since Nepal 
was  a  Hindu  kingdom  at  that  time  they  were  afraid  that  they  would  lose 
their  jobs  if  the  government  came  to  know  about  their  religion.  They 
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�hesitated  to  attend any Church services conducted by the Jesuit priests on 
Saturdays which is a holiday in Nepal.  And yet, a few came quietly for Mass 
to  a small, narrow hall at St. Xavier’s which was used as a church.  Father 
Alan  mentioned  that  there  was  no  one  to  visit  them,  pray  with  them  or  to 
take care of their spiritual needs.  While listening to him I felt a deep urge in 
me  to  look  for  those  scattered  Catholics.  The  next  day  I  talked  with  the 
Maryknoll  Fathers  who  were  ready  to  employ  me  as a nurse.  They had no 
problem about my choice to work in the parish.  To begin my work, I would 
daily commute to Kathmandu by bus.  Seeing my plight of daily travel to the 
city,  the  I.B.M.V.  Sisters  gave  me  a  room  in  their  convent  in  Jawalakhel 
where I could spend the weekends with the Catholic families.   
 
Searching  for  the  scattered  Catholics  in  the  Valley  was  a  real  challenge.  I 
went  with a woman companion to help me to find their houses.  At the end 
of two years, we were able to organise our Catholics into a faith community 
and we began to have Mass at different centres.  The Maryknoll Fathers had 
helped  me  to  introduce  the  concept  of  basic  Christian  community  among 
our  people.  I  taught  regular  catechism  classes  for  the  students  of  St. 
Xavier’s  School  and  a  few  parish  children.  I  can  proudly  say  that  the 
pastoral ministry in Kathmandu was begun by the SCNs with the support of 
Father  Alan.  After  four  years  of  ministry  in  Kathmandu  Valley,  Father 
Casper  Miller, SJ, who was appointed as the episcopal vicar of Nepal asked 
us if we were ready to leave the Valley to look after the spiritual needs of the 
Tribal Catholics in East Nepal.  They had migrated from India to work in the 
vast tea gardens there.   
 
In  February  1983,  with  SCNs  Francine  Moozhil,  (deceased)  and  Rosemarie 
Lakra, I moved to Damak village situated six miles away from the bus stand 
in the town.  I did socio-medical work among the people of tea gardens and 
in  our  village  for  four  years.  Sister  Francine  stayed  home  with  me  and 
helped  me  with  knitting  classes  for  the  women  and  medical  work.  There 
were also Santhal Tribals in East Nepal and since Sister Francine knew their 
language  she  chose  to  work  among  them.  Sister  Rosemarie  opted  to  visit 
the  tea  gardens  on  foot,  for  the  most  part,  to  take  care  of  the  people’s 
spiritual needs.  
 
While  working  with  the  Santhals,  Sisters  Anne  Marie  and  Francine  invited 
Gracy Thombrakudy, SCN, from India to give a retreat to the people.  Sister 
Gracy asked Father Thomas Vettickal to accompany her.  During the retreat 
a  group  of  Nepali  policemen  arrested  the  two  of  them  along  with  the 
catechist  and  Sister  Francine,  accusing  them of proselytization.  They were 
hand-cuffed  and  made  to  walk  all  the  way to Biratnagar in the hot sun for 
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�two  hours.  Their  imprisonment  was  a  real  blow  to  all  of  us  and  going  to 
meet them in the prison was a harrowing experience.  
 
While in Nepal, I had a fifteen day renewal program at Godavari Ashram, in 
Kathmandu  guided  by  Rev.  Father  Pius  Thekemurry  ​and  Dr.  Vinayan  (a 
Hindu  activist)  in  1985.  The  retreat  was  based  on  socio-political  analysis 
with reference to the gospel of Luke.  
 
In  1986 I joined the Bihar ​Dalit Vikas Samiti (B.D.V.S.) in Barh with Sheela 
Palamoottil,  SCN.  Here  I  learned  to  work  with  a  lay  person  who  was  my 
boss.  After  about  two  years  of  work  there  I  felt  the  need  to  be  more 
systematic in my approach to social work and so I went to the Indian Social 
Institute  (ISI)  in  Bangalore  for  a  three-month  course  on  socio-political 
analysis.  This  course  changed  my  life  and  gave  me  a  new  vision  and 
perspective  as  a  religious/follower  of  Jesus.  I  wanted  to  bring  about  a 
radical  change  in  the  existing  system  of  exploiting  the  poor  and  the 
marginalized in our society.  At ISI I was also able to explore the true nature 
of God as an inner source of power in my life and all of creation.   
 
In  1988,  with  the  blessing  from  my  provincial,  Shalini  D’Souza,  SCN,  I 
joined  Sister  Marie  Tobin,  MMS,  and  a  group  of  lay  people  led  by  Sri (Mr.) 
Vinay  Senger  at  Hunterganj  block,  Chatra.  A  Dalit  family  shared  their 
limited  space  in  their  village  house  in  Khutikewal  with  Sister  Marie  Tobin 
and me.  Since Hunterganj was an entirely non-Christian village I decided to 
change  my  name  to  Jyoti  Behen, (sister of light) as Marie Tobin and others 
had  done.  We  became  one  with  the  people  even  though  they  were 
prejudiced against Christians in the beginning.   
 
My  experience  of  working  in  the  liberation  movement  in  Bihar  in  the 
seventies and eighties with Philip Manthara, Rob Currie, Stan Lourdswamy, 
all  Jesuits,  had  helped me in my choice in moving to Hunterganj.  ​In those 
days  the  SCNs  were  already  involved  in  working  with  the  deprived  in  the 
villages  thus  it  was  not  difficult  for  me  to  get  permission  to  live  and  work 
with a lay group.  Sister Marie Tobin was a blessing for me as she supported 
me whole-heartedly until she left for a leadership position in her community. 
   
My  father  who  was  in  his  eighties  passed  away  in  August  1990.  He  was 
bedridden  for  nine  months.  Before  he died he told my brother, “Take good 
care  of  your  mother”.  At  his  funeral,  our  parish  priest  narrated  how  my 
father accepted everything as good without a word of complaint.  Even if the 
food was too pungent or bland, he would always remark, “O, how tasty it is!” 
I remember him telling us, “Be what you are, and do not try to imitate your 
rich  friends.  Everyone  knows  you  belong  to Urumpil family.”  He was very 
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�much  appreciated  in  our  area.  After  his  death  a  rolling  trophy  was 
instituted in his honour to promote sports.  My mother also passed away on 
September 20, 1993 in her 80s.  She was also bedridden like my father and 
could  not  speak  or  eat  by  herself  in  the  days  leading  up to her death.  My 
sisters-in-law were heroic in serving our mother!  I could not attend either of 
my parents’ funerals because I was living in the interior villages in Chatra.   
 
The  twenty-nine  years  I spent in Hunterganj were hectic, risky, challenging 
and yet fulfilling.  Feelings of isolation from the community were part of it all 
and I learned to depend upon the generosity of the people in every way.  The 
Bhuia  community,  the  lowest  rung  of  the  social  ladder  in  particular,  were 
enabled  to  find  their  rightful  place  in  the  society.  For  the  first  time,  the 
women were organized and girls’ education was promoted.  Before this time 
the  women  were  not  treated  with  dignity.  Quarrels  in  the  family  were 
common and they were not allowed to attend any kind of meetings.  I joined 
in  their  struggle  against  the  landlords.  The  landlords  around  the  area  had 
captured the unused government land and the landless people now became 
aware  that  they  could  recapture  it.  It  was  possible  for  them  to  do  so 
because  all  of  us  supported  them  from  behind  the  scenes.  In  spite  of  the 
murder  of  four  of our leaders, the people stood together and fought against 
the landlords.  They captured around 2500 acres of land from the landlords 
and  then  the men went underground to escape from the landlords, Maoists 
and  the  police.  The women and old people were left behind to work on the 
land.  I  needed  a  local  woman  to  work  with  me  but  no  one  was  willing  to 
take up such a job at that time.   
  
After  we  became  a  well-organised  group,  we  named  our  ​voluntary 
organization  as  ‘​Chetna Bharti  (awakening  women)  and  got  it  registered  in 
1993.  ​We  felt  the  registration  was  essential  for  our  survival  because  the 
government had termed us as terrorists and for the Maoists we were agents 
of the police.   
 
As  the  land  was  distributed among the people, a piece of land was used by 
us and we put up a mud house and named it as Khutikewal Ashram.  Life at 
the  ashram  was  not  all  that  easy  for  me  as  I  was  the  only  woman  in  the 
team  and  the  people  were  still  patriarchal  in  their thinking.  At times I felt 
side-lined  as  a  woman.  I knew that I had to leave my feeling aside and set 
up my priorities if I wanted to live and work with the people.  Being reflective 
by  nature  I  depended on the Bible and the life of Jesus to give me strength 
and  light.  This  spiritual  experience  enabled  me  in  my  analysis  of  the 
suffering  people.  I saw all religions merging into one reality in our struggle 
to  change  the  oppressive  world  order.  Also I found more meaning in living 
out my religious life in the context of the people with whom I was working.  
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In the history of SCN ministry the initiative that I took in Hunterganj was a 
first  of  its  kind.  Initially  I  was  reluctant  to  share  about  my  work  with the 
Sisters  in  the  community  at  large.  I  felt  that  they  would  not  fully 
understand my radical involvement with the people.  At times I had felt that 
I was all alone and even thought of leaving the community.  I talked to Sister 
Teresa  Rose  about  it  before  I  approached  the  provincial.  Sister  Teresa 
helped  me  to  change  my  decision.  Gradually  the  leadership  in  the 
community  accepted  my  choice  of  ministry  and  began  to  send novices and 
some  junior  Sisters  for  short  periods  of  exposure  programs.  Other  SCNs 
Joyce  Kalapurayil  ​who  later  discontinued  and  Gracy  Thombrakudy  had 
joined me for short periods.   
 
Another  section  of  the  society  which  drew  my  attention  was  the  girls  who 
were  left  behind  in homes to fend for themselves while the parents worked. 
The  society  and  their  families  considered  their  existence  as  a  burden  and 
parents  were  glad  to  get  rid  of  them  as  early  as  possible,  dead  or  alive. 
Seeing  their  pathetic  condition  I  began  to  collect  these  children  and 
adolescent  girls  and bring them to Chatra, often against the wishes of their 
parents.  Thus  our  organization  became  the  first  in  Chatra  district  to  give 
priority to the education of Bhuia girls.  
 
An unexpected gift I got from God recently was in the person of Sister Anna 
Joseph,  a  member  of  the  Society  of  St.  Joseph  of  Cluny  who  joined  us  in 
June  2016.  She knew no Hindi as she had worked for twenty-two years in 
North  Karnataka  and  Tamil  Nadu  with  various  groups.  This  was  her  first 
exposure  to  life  in  North  India.  She  wanted  to  have  a  new  experience  of 
living  with  a  mixed  group  of  both secular and religious.  Having Anna with 
us is a blessing for our group.  
 
After living and working in Chatra district for close to three decades, I see a 
world  of  positive  change  in  the  women,  girl  children,  adolescents  and  the 
Bhuia community, in general.  Systemic change has occurred in small ways, 
thanks  to  the  women  who  played  a  major  role  in  their  development.  They 
have  formed,  ​Mahila Mukti Sangharsh Samiti  an  organization  for  women’s 
emancipation. 
  
Living  in  the  villages  with  the  people  I  have  learned  the  meaning  of  my 
commitment;  experienced  its  joys  and  sorrows  and  how  women  can  be 
empowered.  When I joined the men at the cremation ground to pay my last 
respects  to  our  slain  leader,  I  had  defied  the  local  custom  of  women  not 
being  allowed  to  be  present  at  a  funeral  pyre.  I  also  experienced  what  it 
means  to  be  detained  in  a  dingy  police lock up almost the whole night.  At 
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�another  time,  I  was  surrounded  by  over  thirty  Maoists  with  their 
ammunitions in a remote forest village.  In all of the above I have answered 
the call of Jesus to the best of my ability.   
 
My attendance at various seminars on national and international levels has 
helped  me  immensely  to  empower  myself to continue the good work that is 
being accomplished among the impoverished and neglected people. 
 
My  hope  for  the  future  is  that those of us who are working on the margins 
be  fully  supported  by  our  fellow  religious  in  institutional  ministry  and  the 
Church,  as  a  whole.  Since  they  have  the  means and contacts to influence 
the  society  in  general  it  is  good  for  all  of  us  to  work  hand-in-hand to save 
our people from oppression and exploitation.  
   

Incidents that have led me closer to God   

As a young Sister missioned in Bakhtiarpur, Sister Mary Frances sent a new 
candidate  with  me  to  the  Block  Development  Office  (BDO)  to  find  out if he 
needed any help with the flood relief work.  He said, “Yes,” and, as a team of 
doctors  from  Patna Medical College Hospital was ready to get into the boat, 
he  invited  us  to  join  them.  I  told  him  that  I  would  have  to  inform  my 
superior  about  it.  He  assured  me  that  he  would  do  so.  My  next  problem 
was that we had no food or clothing for an over-night stay.  The official told 
us  not  to  worry  about  it  because  the  people  were  there  to  provide  us  with 
whatever  we  needed.  We  went  with  them  and  were  able  to  return  to 
Bakhtiarpur  only  after  five  days.  We  were  somewhat  frightened  when  we 
came to know that the BDO had not informed Sister Mary Frances about us. 
To our surprise, she welcomed us back happily.   
 
In  the  midst  of  our  struggle  to acquire land for the poor in Hunterganj two 
policemen came to our Ashram to arrest the activist leader.  We had already 
helped  him  to  escape  from  the  scene.  After  about  half  an  hour,  fifteen  to 
twenty  policemen  led  by  their  officer  in  charge  came  to the village.  I knew 
that  they  would  come  and  I  was  wondering  how  I  would  answer  their 
questions.  The officer told me that I was hiding a culprit.  In response I told 
him  that  I  was  only  protecting  an  innocent  man.  I  know  it’s  your  duty  to 
catch the culprit and mine is to save the innocent.  Humbly, I told him that I 
was  only doing my ​dharma (duty) and if he found me guilty he could arrest 
me.  The officer looked at me for a while, turned to the rest of the police and 
ordered  them  to  retreat.  I  remembered  the  words  in the Bible, ​"I have put 
My words in your mouth and have covered you with the shadow of My hand, 
to establish the heavens, to found the earth, and to say to Zion, 'You are My 
people.”​ ​(Is. 51.16). 
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The insights I have gained  
Jesus has gifted all of us with life and He wants us to become perfect as the 
heavenly God is perfect.  This process of becoming God-like is accomplished 
by  little  steps  each  day.  I  carry  with  me  all  persons,  events  and  natural 
forces in this becoming process.  My role is not to make anybody better or to 
tell other people what they should be doing.  I need to keep my goal renewed 
constantly like the breath I take.  I need not plan for my death just as I had 
nothing  to  do  with  my  birth.  My  life  is  part  of  the  on-going  process  of 
creation and renewal of life on this planet.  
 
The  sudden  deaths  of  both  my  brother,  Chacko,  CMI and sister, Sunanda, 
SCN, were very difficult for me to accept.  In the case of Sunanda it took me 
two  years  to  overcome  my  sorrow.  My CMI religious Brother who had kept 
good  health  all  along,  died  suddenly in 2015, at the age of 80.  ​He ​was the 
one  who  saw  to  my  education,  helped  me  to  come  to  North  India  and who 
always  accompanied  me  whenever  I  went  home.  To  this  day  I  feel  his 
absence.   
  
The biggest challenge I see at present in the community/church   
Tension  between  the  institutional  works  versus  the  social  activists’ 
world view  
Growing corruption in our country and the world, at large   
Our inadequate planning in meeting the needs of the 
exploited/marginalized 
Greediness and consumerism of the people especially the well-to-do  
How  to form the young especially the religious to become more aware 
of the people at the periphery  
 
Experiences of prayer that have helped me over the years  
Routine  family  prayer,  daily  Mass  and  other  rituals  during  my  growing  up 
years  were  a  great  source  of  grace  for  me.  While  living  in  community  I 
enjoyed  group  prayer.  I  have  experienced  God  deep  within  me,  in  nature 
and  its  beauty  and  in  the  struggles  and  suffering  of  people.  As  an  older 
religious  I  have  begun  to  enjoy  contemplative  prayer,  experiencing  God  as 
presence  in  the depth of my being.  Some of the most powerful moments of 
prayer/God  experience  for  me  were  at  times  of  loneliness,  suffering  and 
living among the exploited people. 
 
Most significant events in the community  
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�I was trusted and given the privilege of working in a non-structured ministry 
among  secular  people.  I  was  listened  to  by  the  community  whenever  I 
raised issues at meetings and often decisions were made accordingly. 
What makes me feel proud to be an SCN 
The  community  has  provided  me  with  needed  opportunities  to  change 
myself  into  a  wholesome  person  reaching  out  to  the  needy  at  all  times. 
SCNs  have  enabled  me  to  follow  my  dream  to  live  like  Jesus  among  the 
oppressed and dispossessed.  
 
My dreams &amp; hopes for the Congregation. 
One of my dreams is that we have an intentional community living including 
SCNs,  members  of  other  Congregations,  lay  people  and  others  who  have 
similar  vision like ours and contribute to the building up of the God’s reign 
in  our  world.  My hope for the future is that we  ​live a more disciplined and 
balanced life which will lead us to contemplation in action.  
 
My  religious  life  enables  me  to  live  my  life  fully  as  a  woman  with freedom, 
dignity  and  caring  love  which  perhaps  I  would  not  have  had  out  in  the 
world.  I  have  been  a  mother,  sister,  companion  and  mentor  to  countless 
persons.  The  freedom  I  experienced  from  the  community  to  live  with  the 
oppressed/marginalized has made me happy.   
 
In  conclusion  I  would  like  to  share  my understanding of what my personal 
call is.  When I am happy and enthusiastic about my ministry I know that I 
am  following  God’s  call.  What seems impossible at times becomes possible 
with God’s grace.  In the process of living this call I forget all the sufferings I 
have endured and whatever I had to give up in life in order to become what 
God  wants  me  to  be.  I  can  truly  say  that with God’s grace, the support of 
the  SCN  community  and  the  goodwill  of  the  people  that  I  am  ministering 
with, I am being liberated from the many shackles of life.  I wait for the day 
when my joy shall be complete. 
 
Joel Urumpil, SCN (Jyoti Behen) 
 
Written on 23. 3. 2018  
Edited on April 17, 2018 
Consent given orally to publish the story on April 17, 2018  
 

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                    <text>Interview of Sister Mary Elizabeth Middendorf

Final copy October 2018 by Sharon Cecil, SCNA
Mary Elizabeth Middendorf was born on July 30, 1926 in Cincinnati,
Ohio to Clement Joseph and Hedwig Elizabeth Olding Middendorf.
Whenever a child was born in the Middendorf family; Mary’s
grandmother, Mary Elizabeth Olding, for whom Mary was named came
and helped with the family . Mary’s brother, Ronald, was not happy
when Mary was born. He told his grandmother to get that girl out of
here. He did not want to share his parents. Eventually, Mary’s family
grew by two sisters, Ruth Elaine and Martha Louise, and another
brother, Thomas.
Mary grew up in Cincinnati during the 1930 Depression. Her father
who worked at a furniture company lost his job when the company
closed due to the Depression. Her father went bankrupt and he began
working odd jobs in order to provide for his family; he did this for three
years. By 1937 her father had lost everything. He then found a
janitorial job with the public school system. In 1937 Mary’s mother
decided to go to work to help with the family finances. She did house
work in various homes. At this time Mary was the oldest at home
because her older brother had gone to the seminary. Therefore, Mary
had the responsibility of caring for her siblings. She was about ten years
old and accepted the challenge willingly.
Growing up in Cincinnati, Mary was an avid Cincinnati Reds (baseball
team) fan. Actually, she never went to a game but listened to the
games on the radio. Mary and her siblings developed “home shows” of
singing and dancing to entertain their family. Also, the neighborhood
children gathered and performed shows for their mothers for a nickel.
Mary gave the money that was collected to her mother. She bought
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�the children some candy which was a real treat because they seldom
had candy. The streets were the playground for Mary, her siblings and
neighbors. Some of the games they played were red rover, hide and
seek, baseball, jump rope and tag. The games were lots of fun and
enjoyed by all.
Mary went to Resurrection School for grades one through six and Holy
Family School for grades seven through eight. The Sisters of Charity of
Cincinnati taught in both schools. When Mary went to register at Seton
High School she did not know that money for books was required but
she did not have any. She did not ask her mother for it because she
knew she did not have it. Her mother told her if she had asked her for
the money she would have found it for her. In the fall Mary went to
Commercial High School, one of five technical schools in the public
system. The classes were business oriented but Mary also took a Basic
English class. She graduated after two years. While in high school
Mary’s neighbor, Myrtle Doll, made clothes for her younger sister,
Martha. She taught Mary how to cut and follow a pattern. This proved
beneficial later in life.
Mary was from a family of musicians. Her father played the violin and
she had two aunts who played the piano and an uncle who played the
clarinet. “ When I told my mother I was thinking about piano lessons,
she suggested the Franciscan Sisters because she was taught music by
them and thought they were good teachers. I had graduated from
Commercial High School and was working full time at Trumble Electric
so my lessons were after supper. After about three or four lessons
Sister said to me, ‘I think I will keep you here.’ On the way home I
thought about what Sister said and came to the conclusion that no one
was going to make a nun out of me. I called Sister the next week and
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�told her I was not going to continue the lessons anymore and gave
some excuse.”
In 1942 Mary was hired at Trumble Electric Company that was making
war materials. Mary worked in the payroll office and had to prepare
the factory workers’ payroll cards which had to be key punched with
each workers’ number. Then the cards were sorted and the hours each
worker worked were added. Mary found this very tedious and time
consuming.
During WWII Mary also worked as an Air Raid Warden for her street.
In 1944, Mary’s friend and co-worker, Maxine, decided to enter nurse’s
training. Mary thought she would like to do this too, but when she
applied she was not accepted because she did not have basic high
school courses. Again, Mary was denied an educational opportunity.
But this did not deter Mary; she started night classes taking Chemistry
and History. She continued to work and volunteer at Good Samaritan
Hospital in Cincinnati. Mary believed that this set the path for her
career in nursing.
In January of 1945, Saint Elizabeth Hospital in Covington, Kentucky was
looking for young women to enter into the Cadet Nurse Training
Program. Mary thought she would not be accepted because she did not
have a traditional high school diploma. She was told that would not be
a problem. She was accepted into the Cadet Training Program. The
government paid for classes, uniforms and gave the cadets a stipend.
This was a three year program but the last six months were to be
completed working at various locations. The program ended and Mary
was not obligated to go to a workplace.
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�When Mary was a student nurse, a patient, Father George Donnelly
deceased, from Saint Patrick’s in Covington, Kentucky asked Mary,
“Why are you not at Nazareth?” She replied. “What is Nazareth?”
Father George told her about Nazareth. Later, she met some Sisters of
Charity of Nazareth when they came to see Father George.
“In May of 1947 while working on the floor; I had some time off in the
afternoon and on the spur of the moment I went to Father Donnelly
and told him I wanted to go to Nazareth in September or I wasn’t going
at all.” Father George sent her message to Mother Ann Sebastian
Sullivan. He received a response telling Mary to come. Sister Mary
shared, “Today the thought came to me, ‘You have not chosen Me but I
have chosen You.’” Mary did not inform her family or friends she was
going to the convent until she received the acceptance letter from
Mother Ann Sebastian. She gave the letter to her parents. Both
parents responded, “Do whatever you want.” Her friends did not say
much.
Mary’s parents did not drive so when it was time to go to Nazareth,
Mary caught the streetcar to the bus station in Cincinnati. She rode a
Greyhound bus to Saint Joseph Hospital in Lexington, Kentucky. She
met a group of young women who were going to Nazareth. A driver
from the hospital drove five of them to Nazareth.
Mary entered the Sisters of Charity of Nazareth on September 24, 1947.
She received the habit on March 25, 1948, and was given the religious
name, George Maria. Father George had told Mother Ann Sebastin he
wanted that name for Mary as he had led Mary to the community.
Later, Mary returned to her baptismal name when it was allowed.

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�The novitiate years were not difficult for Sister Mary. She attributed
this to her being older and that she had completed two and a half years
of nurse’s training. She was used to structure and went with the flow.
In March of 1950 Sister Mary completed the novitiate. Sister Mary
made first vows on March 25, 1950 and final vows on July 19, 1953.
Sister Mary’s first mission was at Saint Joseph Infirmary in Louisville,
Kentucky as a senior student nurse. Sister Mary had to have work
outside of her classes. She worked at a clinic for the Louisville Health
Department. She gave immunizations and physicals for children and
made follow-up visits with them at home to make sure they did not
have any reactions. She was responsible for the health care needs of
her patients. After she graduated she had to take the State Boards and
she passed. Then she received her Registered Nurse Certification. She
continued to work on the floor at St. Joseph until October, 1951, when
she was transferred to Marymount Hospital in London, Kentucky. She
was nurse supervisor there until August of 1953.
One morning at breakfast her superior informed her that she was to go
to Saint Andrew School, and teach grades one through four. Sister Mary
said, “I knew as much about teaching as a drop in the bucket!” She also
had to prepare lunch for the students. Sister Mary had worked in the
emergency room until after midnight. She felt that she was not fit to
teach the children, but she did as she was directed. In a few days a
Sister was sent to teach so Sister Mary happily returned to her nursing
duties.
Sister Mary was missioned at various places for only a year each; which
at times she found challenging. Eventually, in August of 1953, Sister
Mary transferred to Memorial Hospital in Chattanooga, Tennessee until
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�November of 1954. She was night duty nurse supervisor. The doctor
occasionally ordered a mixed prescription; and she had to call the
pharmacist, and he directed her how to mix the medicine. In the
beginning Sister Mary found this a bit of a challenge. In November of
1954, Sister Mary was moved to Saint Vincent Infirmary in Little Rock,
Arkansas, where she ministered for almost seven years. When Sister
Mary arrived at the old Saint Vincent Infirmary, she was only there
about three days before she moved to the new hospital. It was chaotic
because the move occurred while they kept the hospital operating. The
Sisters’ residence in the hospital was not ready. They were given
patient beds temporarily but were moved about because their rooms
were needed for patients. When the Sisters’ rooms were finished they
were allowed to settle into their new home.
Saints Mary and Elizabeth Hospital in Louisville was where Sister Mary
was assigned in August of 1961. She worked as a nurse on the floor and
also went to school. Although Sister Mary was certified as an RN she
did not have a college degree. She began taking classes in 1961, at
Catherine Spalding College in Louisville. A requirement for the class
was to work in a health facility. Sister Robert Ann Cash would not allow
Sister Mary to be a visiting nurse because Sisters were not to mix with
the laity. Therefore, she worked in the Louisville Public Health
Department. She gave immunizations, examined the babies and made
home visits. In May of 1964 a Bachelor of Science in Nursing was
conferred upon Sister Mary at the graduation ceremony.
“In 1964 a superior came to me while I was at Spalding and said they
wanted me to go to Catholic University and get a degree in Public
Health Nursing as they needed someone to teach Public Health Nursing
in the collegiate program. My response was, ‘You’re kidding, I don’t
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�want to teach.’ I don’t like teaching. I finally gave in.” Sister Mary
moved to Washington D.C. in August of 1964 where she pursued a
Master in Public Health Nursing at Catholic University. She completed
her required work and received her degree in August of 1966. Sister
Mary received grants that paid for her education.
In August of 1966 Sister Mary began teaching in the collegiate nurses
training program at Catherine Spalding College. She taught a Public
Health Nurse course and had speakers do presentations for the class.
She told the students that their exam would be from information
presented by the speakers. The students did not pay attention to
speakers therefore they all failed the class. Sister Agnes Miriam Payne
required Sister Mary to create another exam so the students would
pass. Reluctantly, Sister Mary did as she was directed. In the end the
students passed the class. She taught there f​ or ​two years. Then she
returned to Saint Vincent Infirmary for a year before she returned to
Saint Joseph Infirmary in August of 1968. She remained there until it
was announced that St Joseph Infirmary was closing in 1970. Sister
Mary started searching for what she was going to do next.

It did not take long before Sister Mary embarked on another nursing
ministry. She began working for Project H.O.P.E which was Health
Opportunities for People Everywhere. Sister Mary and Sister Agnes
Regina Siracusa began this ministry in September, 1970 on the Navajo
Reservation in Ganado, Arizona. She was in charge of a clinic under the
direction of a doctor thirty five miles away. She gave medications
prescribed by the doctor to patients, gave physicals and referred
people to the hospital if needed. Sister Mary had a good working

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�relationship with the doctor at the hospital whom she called if she
needed assistance.
Sister Mary’s assistant, Rosita Curley, helped her learn the customs of
the Navajo life on the reservation. One Navajo grandmother came daily
for a cup of coffee. She was happy that Sister Mary called her
“Granma.”
Sister Mary and Sister Agnes Regina left the reservation in December of
1971 and returned to Louisville. Sister Mary was not still for long
before she and Sister Agnes Regina set sail with Project H.O.P.E. in
January 1972 and headed to Brazil. She departed on the SS HOPE, a
hospital ship, from a port in Baltimore, Maryland. Once they boarded
the ship, they were given life jackets and instructions on how to wear
them. Also, they were given information about the ship. It took seven
days to reach Brazil. Sister Mary recalled that on the way several of
them got sea sick. After a few days of not eating; they were given
anti-nausea pills each morning before breakfast. The pills solved the
problem. Sister Mary did not have all leisure time on the ship. The
group cleaned and painted the ship while on the trip. They also had
classes in Portuguese and instructions on Brazilian culture. There was
an initiation when they crossed the equator that was called “Captain
Neptune”. They painted their faces and participated in various games
to celebrate the crossing. A card was given to them so whenever they
crossed the equator again, they would not have to be initiated.
When the SS HOPE arrived at the Rio Grande de Norte, the mouth of
the Potenji River, the natives had to dig out a channel of the river for
the ship to fit. The ship docked at Natal, Brazil. Over two thousand
people welcomed the ship.
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�On the first day they were taken to see the hospital in Natal. There
were no sheets on the beds and no panes in the windows, curtains
covered the openings. They also went to a leprosarium and talked with
a patient. They saw a man whose fingers were half gone due to
leprosy.
There were Sisters from five different religious communities working on
the ship. The first night they arrived one of the doctors took them all to
a restaurant for the evening meal. The Sisters discovered that purses
were not allowed on the floor so they had to put them on chairs. At
different times groups would go on excursions, one was to see the
Amazon River.
Sister Mary’s office was on the ship and Sister Agnes Regina worked in
the operating room on the ship. They also lived on the ship and would
share meals with the workers. A native driver and an interpreter drove
Sister Mary to the interior of Natal, Brazil. She observed that the people
lived in huts and all the cooking was done outside. The people slept in
hammocks. Sister Mary visited, checked and addressed the patients’
health needs. If they had been in the hospital Sister Mary would check
their vitals and medications. She taught them how to care for
themselves.
Occasionally, the priest went with Sister Mary on her visits. One
morning at 10:00 A.M. when visiting a family, Sister Mary was offered a
beer. She told Father that she did not like beer. He told her she had
better drink it; because if she did not their feelings would be hurt. This
was a first for Sister Mary, a warm beer in the morning!
Sister Mary’s mission in Natal, Brazil was completed in December of
1972. Sister Mary loved her time in Natal. Sister Mary remembers that
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�when SS HOPE began the return trip to the United States a severe
storm occurred on their way home. They were given life jackets and
given definite directions of what to do until the storm subsided. The
ship was tossed back and forth by the huge waves. Sister Mary recalled
that it was a very scary experience! She was very happy when the ship
arrived at the port in Baltimore.
Sister Mary returned to Louisville, December 20, 1972 from Brazil. She
wasted no time before she took a position at the Veterans
Administration Medical Center in Louisville. Sister Mary provided one
on one care for the veterans. If veterans were sent to a nursing home
she explained to them how to care for themselves once they left the
medical center. Later, Sister Mary followed up with the veterans in the
nursing home. It bothered her that some of the veterans did not get the
care they needed there. After a year Sister Mary left the Veterans
Medical Center and worked at Health Care of Louisville. She worked in
a clinic located at St. George’s School on Eighteenth Street.
In August 1975 Sister Mary became a student in the Family Nurse
Practitioner program in Indiana. The classes were in an area on the
University of Indiana campus that was just for those studying to
become Nurse Practitioners. Her Anatomy course was an in depth
study of all the parts of the human body. She worked with another
Nurse Practitioner and they gave physicals for the patients in a doctor’s
office. Sister Mary completed the requirements for certification, and
after passing State Boards she was certified as a Family Nurse
Practitioner. Later, Sister Mary received certification in Geriatrics.
Sister Mary worked at Nazareth Home in Louisville from 1976-1992 as a
Nurse Practitioner. Sister Mary had an exam room in her office.
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�“When I began as a Nurse Practitioner, the State required all employees
to have physical exams to work in a nursing home. I did the physicals
on the employees. Flu shots were given to employees and all residents
if they wished.” When Sister Mary was Nurse Practitioner at Nazareth
Home she was in charge of all health care for the Sisters. In the clinic
she would prepare the Sisters for the doctor visits. The doctor came
once a week and Sister Mary consulted with him if she needed
something. Doctor Russell May, Director of Medical Care and Doctor
Deitz Wolfe, his assistant, were very supportive of Sister’s Mary work at
Nazareth Home.
Sister Mary began a sabbatical in August 1992. She participated in a
program offered by the Oblate School of Theology in San Antonio,
Texas. The participants were priests, Sisters and brothers who lived
together in one building. They took turns preparing liturgies. They took
Theology and Philosophy classes. In their free time the group went on
various outings. Some of the outings included a trip to Padre Island, an
orchard, a San Antonio river walk and to a Mexican market. Sister Mary
enjoyed the time shared on their trips. Sister Mary completed the
program and the remainder of her sabbatical was spent in Louisville.
Sister Mary became the campus nurse for Spalding University in
October, 1993. She had a mini clinic where she gave flu shots after she
received the prescriptions from the doctor at Nazareth Home. Sister
Mary cared for the minor health needs of Spalding students for four
years. On October 1997 Sister Mary retired from a nursing career of
over forty years.
Sister Mary was not one to be idle; after a few months of leisure she
volunteered at the Family Scholar House in Louisville. She worked with
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�the Project Women program that was formed to break the cycle of
poverty for single mothers through college education. The program
helped the women with various needs such as housing and finding jobs.
When Sister Mary began in October of 1997 she filed and updated
forms and typed minutes from meetings and prepared them for the
next meeting. In the later years she only did the bookkeeping. Sister
Mary enjoyed her work because she knew it was for a good cause.
Sister Mary volunteered for twenty years with Project Women.
Project Women was not the only group who benefitted from Sister
Mary’s volunteerism. She was a quilter for Saint Agnes Church and the
Little Sisters of the Poor both located in Louisville. She helped make
quilts for their fundraisers to continue their ministries. Today, Sister
Mary has a quilt on her bed that she quilted. It is beautiful.
Sister Mary moved to the Motherhouse at Nazareth in March of 2017. I
asked Sister Mary how she spent her time now that she is retired. She
replied, “I am working on a lap quilt and a larger quilt, too.” Sister
Mary continued by stating that everything is provided for her. She
walks about outside with her “Jitney” (walker on wheels) and
participates in exercise classes with Tootsie Gish. She also does a lot of
reading of various types of books and participates in any activities that
are offered. She is willing to help wherever there is a need.
Sister Mary shared that the poverty she saw in Natal, Brazil left a lasting
impression on her. She has never seen such poverty anywhere else in
her life.
Sister Mary described her life as a Sister, “It’s A Good Life.” She has
not been limited and has done what she wanted throughout her life.
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�Sister Mary concluded by saying, “The Blessed Mother has taken care of
me throughout my life and as long as I have the Blessed Mother taking
care of me I don’t worry.”
“In all that has happened I feel that God has been directing my life
without me knowing it.”

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                    <text>Sister Patricia Haley, SCN
November, 2018
(The remarks of the editor are in italics.
Sister Patricia Haley, “Pat”, holds the distinction of being the first Sister of Charity of
Nazareth who can claim African American descent. She was an honored and cherished
member of the SCN Community as well as a religious woman appreciated in wider
American Church circles.
Especially impressive was her founding membership in the National Black Sisters
Conference. Her story here is adapted from her interview with Sister Therese Arru,
SCN,​ w
​ ith gratitude to Cherrylle Coleman, Archival Center volunteer, for her work
transcribing the interview.
This interview in its full and enjoyable entirety may be read in the Nazareth Archives or
accessed at this link:___________.)
Pat Haley was born in Columbus, Georgia in 1945. Her mother was Blanche Miles
Haley and her birth father was John Manuel. It was Julius Haley, a Louisiana Catholic,
who “was the father I grew up with and the Dad I know.” Pat had three sisters: Joyce,
Sheila and Debra, whom Julius Haley adopted. Julius had one son, Henry, who became
stepbrother to Pat and her sisters. (​Sadly, all three of her sisters died young. Sheila
and Debra died in their fifties. Joyce died at age twenty-nine and left two small children.)
Julius was a chef and taught them all how to cook. One of the places where Julius was
employed was the Morrison Cafeteria chain. When he was transferred to Montgomery,
Alabama the family moved with him. Pat enrolled at St. Jude’s School staffed by the
Vincentian Sisters of Charity (VSC), now members of the SCN Community. Pat had first
met the Vincentians while in the second grade at Mother Mary Mission in Phenix City,
AL. A fellow St. Jude student, Norma, later entered the VSCs and became Sister Julian.
Pat’s mother, Blanche, went to Tuskegee Institute and then graduated from Alabama
A&amp;M (Agricultural and Mechanical University). She had excellent math skills and was a

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�wise mentor and disciplinarian for her children. Blanche was the only girl among four
brothers. She was proud that her brother George was a trained Tuskegee Airman. Pat
shares, “My mother was a member of Dr. Martin Luther King’s church in Montgomery.
She and my Dad participated in the civil rights marches and bus boycotts.”
Pat’s maternal grandmother was Daisy Miles White and Daisy’s husband, Howard
White. Pat was close to them both, following Howard around “like a shadow.” Her
maternal great grandmother, Mary Boikins – “Big Momma” she was called - had
Cherokee and African American relatives in her ancestry,
(There are memories of childhood, some of spankings, which Pat told with humor and
no hurt feelings. I shall share and use her own words.)
“From time to time we would go to church with our grandparents. What they always
used to say was that Baptists shouted and Methodists just waved their hands. Well, my
grandmother was a shouting Methodist and my mama and Great-gran and were a hand
waving Baptists! I had many fun memories of my Great-gran since she babysat us most
of the time while our mother and grandmother worked…. I remember the spankings I
got. There were three good ones from my Great-gran which I will never forget. One of
them I remember was that a crew of girls and I were supposed to be friends but we
were bullying one another. Great-gran was watching us, called us all in to tell her what
we were doing. She listened and said, ‘I am going to give all of you a spanking – some
because you were doing something to a girl who was supposed to be your friend, and to
you (the girl who was bullied), because all you had to do was come in and tell me.’
When Great-gran gave a spanking she always ended with, ‘In the name of the Father
God (womp!), in the name of the Mother God, Jesus’ mama (womp!), in the name of
Jesus Christ (womp,womp!!) and in the name of the Holy Ghost (womp, womp!!).’ I
would try to talk Big Momma out of it but it didn’t work. I’d say, ‘Jesus Christ was ONE
and the Holy Ghost was ONE’.
Another memory I have is that the same little group of girls decided that we were going
to collect some money and pretend it was for the Church fundraiser that was going on.

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�We collected a few nickels and dimes. We spread out our little handkerchiefs with the
coins in them but we were just kindergarteners’ so we couldn’t count. When Great-gran
saw us she counted it for us and complimented us on raising money for the Church.
She told the pastor and the next Sunday we had to walk down the Church aisle and put
the money in the collection basket. We weren’t happy about that.
I remember that dues at church were five cents a Sunday. I would stop at a grocery on
the way and buy myself a little Johnny Cake and have a few pennies left for church.
Later a note would come home about my dues and what was still owed; I got a spanking
about that and the usual womps.”
Pat became a Catholic when she was in the eighth grade although she had had
instruction class from the second grade. She was dismissed from instruction class
because of her many questions about beliefs which just didn’t make sense to her. The
pastor finally gave in and Pat was baptized. The pastor commented, “Baptize the child
‘cause she isn’t going to get any better.” She argued for her name of “Patricia”; instead
she was given “Ann.” (​In the SCN Community, when receiving the habit, she would also
request “Patricia”. In addition she added “Ann Barbara” to her request list. She received
the latter but in 1969 changed back to “Patricia”.)
Growing up, Pat wanted to take piano lessons but her mother chose drama and public
speaking which Pat was happy about later in life. Her parents were excellent dancers
and the Haley girls learned from them. From her Great-gran she learned to listen to the
church choir. She and several other little girls thought that they had learned the hymn,
“Nearer, my God to Thee”, except that when the deacon called them up to sing in their
little Sunday dresses what they sang was, “Nero, my God , to Thee.” From her
Great-gran Pat leaned many things and missed her terribly after she died when Pat was
in the tenth grade.
The cooking Pat learned from her father she kept as a skill all her life. She remembered,
“He taught us first how to make cornbread. I thought that you made biscuits the same
way. When I finished making biscuits, they were a gorgeous brown and hard as a brick.
Water wouldn’t even soak through them. He also taught us how to iron and make our

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�beds. He had definite ideas about how our house should run. All seven of us were made
to feel responsible. He showed us the way by caring for his own clothes, making beds
and tending to the youngest ones. His Navy training truly showed. I loved him dearly
and would grieve his loss even though he lived to the age of ninety-seven.”
“I remember that the first thing in the morning,” Pat shared, “we got up, hit our knees,
said a prayer and made our beds. On Sundays there was a children’s Mass at 9:00
A.M., which we all, including my Mom and Dad, attended. We would then go home,
have breakfast and go to my mother’s church at 11:30”.
In Montgomery, Pat remembers the kind Vincentian Sisters mentioning religious
vocation even though the students were small. When they moved to the Birmingham
area because of her father’s work, Pat first met the Sisters of Charity of Nazareth at
Holy Family High School, Ensley. SCNs also staffed a small hospital in the same
location. After grade school, which the Felician Sisters staffed, Pat attended Holy
Family. She was on a work study program and remembers the name of the Sister staff
there: Mary Timothy Holland, James Teresa Hagan, Ruth Edward Speer, and Charles
Benedict Greenwell. The latter the students teasingly called “Sister Huck” after
Huckleberry Hound whose floppy ears reminded them of Sister’s floppy bows on her
bonnet.
Pat and her friends became candy stripers at Holy Family Hospital and called
themselves “Ben Casey girls” after a popular TV character. They made friends with the
Sisters at the hospital, especially Sister Ann Jude Whitty. Pat’s friends even became
nurses, one of them a head nurse at the University of Alabama Hospital even though as
a candy striper she screamed and ran from the room when she found a patient had
died. Pat’s plans were different. She was in the ROTC (Reserve Officer Training Corps)
and actually signed up with the Marines, planning to become an attorney in that branch
of Military Service. Her older sister had joined the Air Force and Pat knew that before
she could join the Marines she needed to graduate high school and then get her
parents’ signature.

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�Pat continued, “My high school years were good. My Mom and Dad often chaperoned
our dances. The Haleys – my Mom and Dad, my brother, and me – were always there,
chaperoning and dancing.”
Pat admired her mother and the wise ways she had for keeping the family’s finances.
She also taught her children that the family shared responsibility for its upkeep. Any
small monies the children would acquire were expected to be put into the family fund.
Pat’s mother said to them, “Everybody is working for the family and everyone has to
share.” Each family member took turns counting out the cash from the parents’
paychecks plus the children’s small contributions. Everyone knew about the family’s
financial status. Further, the member in need received the item necessary. All knew that
need was the priority. Allowances, on the other hand, were to be spent as desired.
During her high school years Pat took part in civil rights activities. She had the
experience of water hoses, torn clothing and dirty cattle trucks. Her very wise mother
impressed on her daughter how serious the civil rights issue was and how important the
consequences.
She shares, “My mother died of a massive heart attack at age fifty-four. Heart issues
run on the female side of our family. Her aunts, great aunts, grandmother, great
grandmother and sisters all died off either heart attacks or strokes. The financial burden
that came with those illnesses was often devastating.”
When Pat was a junior in high school and a member of the Young Christian Leadership
group, she had the opportunity to go to Kentucky for the “Holy Land” tour. She
remembered, “That’s when I saw the Nazareth Motherhouse. It might have been then
when I started thinking of letting go of the Marines and choosing religious life. Other
communities of Sisters had given us vocation talks but I didn’t care for their European
roots.”
Sister Mary Lucia Flowers was the SCN who began to talk seriously to Pat about
entering religious life. With Father Gilbert Kroger,​ ​C.P.’s recommendation, Pat took the
life-changing step of applying to the SCN Community. She shared, “Mother Lucille

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�Russell came down to introduce herself to me and to let me know that I might not be
really received by some of the Sisters. I told her that I knew that. When I told my Gran
and Great-gran, they said to me, ‘Are you going to go to school?’ I said, ‘Yes, ma’am’.
They replied, ‘You can go.’ They were concerned about education and continued
talking, ‘You have been in the Civil Rights Movement and now are going to be with all
white folks.” Again, I said, ‘Yes, ma’am’. Their response was, ‘You can take care of
yourself, so you will be all right.’ They were very supportive and didn’t try to stop me.”
There were forty-five young women who entered the community with Pat in 1963. Now
these Sisters remain - Sisters Betty Blandford, Marie Becker, Rebecca Miles and
Eleanor Martin. They gather several times a year and are joined by former members
who can attend. Sister Kay Glunk, formerly a Vincentian Sister of Charity, is considered
a member of their group.
Pat had good memories of Novice Director Sister Constance Mueller and has many
novitiate stories to tell​. (Her stories are so heartwarming and enjoyable. They may be
accessed in the original interview, pp.11 to 15. We shall content ourselves with just a
few here.)
These are Pat’s words, “When we got to Nazareth as postulants we were assigned
duties. I was assigned to the white men’s dining room. I thought, ‘There’s no way I’m
gonna do that.’ Mother Lucille was coming down the hall, and although I knew I wasn’t
supposed to, I stopped her. I asked for a meeting with her and her Council ‘because I
am assigned a duty I simply will not do.’ The next day Sister Constance said that the
meeting would take place that afternoon. I told the Council, ‘It is not right to be
segregated in a place like this. I just spent my years in high school and earlier fighting
segregation. I know I was coming into a white world, but there is no excuse for this.’
Sister Mary Ransom Burke, bless her heart said, ‘What would you suggest we do?’ I
looked at her and said, ‘It’s just a partition between two dining rooms. If you have a
ladder and screwdriver, I’ll take it down….Mother Lucille said, ‘We will have to have a
conversation with the workers.’ I said ‘You didn’t have a conversation with them before.

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�It was decided by the Council. I will not work in a segregated dining room, obedience or
no obedience.’
Nothing else was said but in a week the partition was down and I took the duty. Many of
the workers did not like it but it was down. In the hallway there was a white water
fountain and a colored fountain. I said you also need to do something about those two
fountains. So they did. Sister Mary Ransom later said ‘Thank you’ to me and so did
Mother Lucille.”
A really comical story is that Pat’s novitiate class had to wait until an older group had
their share of a pizza treat prepared by Sister Margaret Patrick Gallagher. There was
almost none left for Pat and her class. Much grinning came from them when they
realized that the treat was actually liver pizza.
Another story shows Pat’s confidence joined to her unselfishness. Pat asked Sister
Constance if her novitiate class could swim in the pool in the Nazareth College gym.
After settling on old-fashioned swimsuits from the Fitzpatrick religious garb catalog,
Sister gave permission but looked puzzled when Pat was not swimming. Pat explained,
“Sister Constance, you didn’t say anything but I don’t swim. I wasn’t asking permission
for myself. I just never learned how to swim because back in segregation days there
were no pools for black kids. I never did learn and I wasn’t going down to a river where
my brother went​.”
(In the letters she and her sister Joyce exchanged –Joyce was in boot camp- she
learned that Joyce learned to swim by being tossed into the water, a not always
advisable way to learn swimming. Pat also shared stories about 5:00 A.M. convent
rising, quick wash and dressing and getting to the Chapel. Pat says, “I told her we were
learning how to sleep during meditation.”)
Pat made vows in August 1966 and remained at Nazareth for Juniorate training until
1968. Her first mission away was at St. Ladislas School in Columbus, Ohio. Pat said
this, “When I was assured that there were black children in school, I agreed to go. There
were only ten in the whole school and three of them were in my second grade class. I

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�stayed only a year but I have good memories of this assignment and remember well the
Sisters with whom I lived: Andrew Maria Gass, Louise Smith, Wilma Ross, Mary Jane
Sappington, Martha Clan, Anselma Trimborn.” A sad memory is that during the time she
was missioned at St. Ladislas, Dr. King was assassinated and yet the pastor didn’t
mention it until Sister Anselma told him.
At the same time Pat was also in a preaching ministry. When she flew to various places
and was given a deck of cards by the airline stewardess, she brought them home to her
“card playing ladies” at St. Ladislas.
Pat went to Louisville in June 1969 where she would teach at various times at these
schools: St. Matthias, St. Brigid and Immaculate Heart of Mary. She studied Urban
Development and Government Administration at the University of Louisville but became
ill and did not complete her Master’s degree​. (Pat had already received a Bachelor of
Science in Education at Nazareth College, Nazareth.​ ) During this time of study she lived
at St. Thomas-St. Vincent Home.
When the Federal Government passed Title IX legislation, the law that opened
education opportunities without discrimination of gender, Pat signed up to go to
Washington, D.C. to learn more about it. She donned a pinstripe suit, had a brand new
brief case and took her place with others learning about the new law. When she
returned, she was able to apply her knowledge of Title IX to benefit students at
Immaculate Heart of Mary School.
Pat recalled a trip to the Bahamas where she and other African American religious were
hosted by Sidney Poitier and Harry Belafonte. They hoped that the Sisters from the
States could influence the Bahamian Sisters and priests to get interested in politics. She
feels that, at least initially, they were not successful. That led Pat and other Sisters to
form the National Black Sisters Conference. Besides being a founding member, Pat was
also on the first board. (​This summer, 2018, Sister Pat, despite serious health problems,
attended the 50​th​ anniversary of the Conference, held in New Orleans.)

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�Sister Barbara Thomas, Superior General, gave Pat the approval to answer her call to
teach and speak about black history whenever she could, as well as giving workshops
and participating in revivals.
In the 1960’s and 1970’s there not many SCNs who were willing to live in an all-black
neighborhood. Pat knew that she didn’t want to live in an all-white neighborhood. Pat,
with a group of Sisters, did move to the West End of Louisville. Besides Pat, the group
was comprised of Sisters Kathleen Flaherty, Mary Kathleen Sheehan, Janet Daugherty,
Ann Kateri Kenyon, Sister Peggy Corbett and Barbara Houston, a Sister of Notre Dame
who transferred to the SCN Community, but later withdrew. At the invitation of Fathers
Tony Heitzman and Charles Mackin, they moved into the former Sacred Heart Church
rectory, located at 18​th​ Street and Broadway. While Sister Pat was away in Indianapolis
marching with a civil rights group, the other Sisters, at the urging of the Tenants Union,
tore down a dilapidated, abandoned house in the area. They were arrested for throwing
debris into the street and blocking traffic on Dixie Highway. When their mug shots were
taken, the Sisters refused to be sad and even asked the police officer, “Could I have
another picture for my parents?” The officer said he never wanted to see them again for
anything.
A trial date was set for March 10, 1972 and, to the displeasure of the judge, the Sisters
asked for individual trials. Two busloads of persons came from the Plymouth Settlement
House as well a busload of Sisters, including Mother Lucille, from Nazareth. Sister Pat
brought children in, carrying balloons and singing, “We shall overcome.” Mother Lucille
was the first character witness and the Sisters showed their support by saying “Amen”
whenever there was a “So help me God.” Some were saying the rosary​. (In Pat’s words,
“It was a show.” For those of us there, it was indeed a memorable happening, humorous
but serious in its consequence.) ​The prosecution sent the jury out and one juror just left
the scene because he knew what the outcome was bound to be. When the judge said
“case dismissed’ for Kathleen Flaherty, they decided to settle out of court rather than
parade the other Sisters through the charade.

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�Pat moved into a home for abused women and children on Brook Street, one of several
for women in need which Father John Morgan had established. She shared, “While I
was there I was traveling, doing workshops and revivals. I was graced to get to the
Islands. I got to Barbados, St. Lucia, St. Thomas, St. Vincent, the Bahamas, and others.
I did workshops on each one of those….I would start a song and the people would pick
it up singing in their own way, different from the States. I thoroughly enjoyed that and
the food too.”
Pat was one of the first teachers in the Black Catholic Studies program at Xavier
University in New Orleans, Louisiana and taught there for twenty-eight summers. In
1982, she went to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania where she worked with the police
department. She described her role in this way, “They had a family service unit with real
social workers. They had truant kids and those who were not social workers were
assigned to deal with those kids. I worked there for eight years until they closed the unit.
From there I went to Our Lady of Souls Parish where the pastor wanted me to be a
choir director. I told him I was not prepared for that but he said I knew how to wave my
hands up and down.” Her role in the parish was Director of the Spiritual Vocation Center
and, after four years, she worked in the Office of Black Catholics, still in Philadelphia.
In 2000, Pat went to Tampa, Florida in the Diocese of St. Petersburg, where she again
was at the Office of Black Catholics and in parish social ministry. She remained in
Florida eleven years, living with a family where the wife was from India and husband
from Trinidad.
In 2011, Pat came to the Motherhouse at Nazareth. Her health was a great challenge
for her but, whenever she was able, she sang at Mass, many times composing the
songs herself according to the liturgy of the day.
(​As I complete this narrative of a quite unusual life, the news of Sister Pat’s death has
been sent to us. She was a gift to the SCN Community and to God’s people, especially
championing the rights of our brothers and sisters in the black community. We have to
admire Pat’s courage in entering a then all-white community and then bravely calling
our Community to remember that racism has no place among us. We know that we

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�have promised to follow the Gospel mandate that “We are all one.” We can thank God
for the example of her life and courage.)
Therese Arru, SCN, Interviewer
Maria V. Brocato, SCN, Editor

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                    <text>Rosemarie Lakra, SCN 
 

Born on September 15, 1937, in Sirsi village and Katkahi parish, in Ranchi 
diocese  and  district,  I,  Celestina  Lakra,  am  the  fourth  child  of  my  father, 
Patras  Lakra  and  mother,  Louisa  Xalxo.  We  were seven girls and one boy. 
In  the  order  of  birth  they  are  Albertina,  (later  Sister  Agatha),  Alexius, 
Anasthasia,  Celestina,  Mary  Constantina,  Anna  Rosalia,  Albina  Julita  and 
Henerietta.  The  second  youngest  girl,  Albina  Julita,  died  when  she  was 
three  years  old.  My  good  Catholic  parents  saw  to  it  that  we  had  daily 
prayers  and  attended  Mass  whenever  possible.  My father was trained as a 
Cathechist and a teacher.  We were a middle class joint family.  My brother, 
Alexius,  married  young and had three children.  There was a severe famine 
in  the  early  1950s.  One  after  the  other,  many calamities such as death of 
cattle  and  horses,  failing  family  business,  and  a  theft  took  place  in  our 
family.  Suddenly,  like  Job  in  the  Bible,  we  lost  everything  and  we  became 
very poor.  Alexius, my beloved brother died on July 31, 1957 and his three 
children  died  within a short span of one and a half years.  My sister-in-law 
married  again  and  moved  out  of  my  home.  She,  too,  died  in  1961.  My 
cousin brother also died during this time.   
 
My  eldest  sister,  Albertina,  a  trained  teacher,  after  working  for  four  years, 
joined  the  Ursuline  Sisters.  My  sisters,  Anasthasia,  Mary  Constantina, 
Anna Rosalia and Henerietta are married.  
 
Due  to  financial  difficulties,  my  parents  found  it  difficult  to  provide  an 
education  for  me.  I  went  to  the  Mahuadanr  parish  primary  school  which 
had  classes  only  up  to  Class  V.  With  financial  help  from  the  Mahuadanr 
parish  priest,  I  studied  up  to  Class  VII  at  St.  Teresa’s  School  run  by  the 
Holy Cross Sisters.  There was no high school close by, nor road or buses to 
commute.  The  only  high  school  was  the  Ursuline  Convent  Girls’  High 
School  in  Gumla,  five  days  walk  away.  I  had  a  great  desire  to  study  and 
against my parents' wishes I went to that school for my studies.  Each year, 
I  had  to  face  obstacles  but  I  managed to finish my matriculation (Class XI) 
in the year 1957.  
 
The Holy Cross Sisters invited me to join them and the Ursulines invited me 
to study in their college.  Finally with the help of my uncle, a Jesuit priest, I 
was  able  to  continue  my  studies  at Xavier’s College staying at the Ursuline 
convent hostel.  Because of ill health, I was not able to complete the college. 
I also had a desire to become a nurse and so I went to Holy Family Hospital 
in Mandar, Ranchi, for General Nursing.  I did the Midwifery from Kurji Holy 
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�Family  Hospital,  Patna  and  I  returned  to  Mandar  Holy  Family  Hospital.  I 
worked  full-time  there  for  one  and  a  half  years  before  joining  the  SCN 
Congregation.  
 
No  Sisters  were  in our parish until I was in Class IV.  When the Daughters 
of St. Anne came to our parish in Rajawal, the villagers waited for them with 
garlands.  I also joined them in welcoming and garlanding the Sisters.  As I 
saw them, I felt like some current passing through my body, possibly a sign 
for  my  desire  to  become  a  religious.  I  grew  up  keeping  that longing in my 
mind.   
 
As good Christians, my parents had deep faith and they were very prayerful. 
They  influenced  me  very much.  While I was working as a nurse, I met one 
of  my  classmates  who  was  joining  the  Ursuline  Sisters  in  Ranchi.  From 
then  on,  my  inner  voice  began  to  push  me  and  I  heard  a  voice  telling  me, 
"Go  right  now,  and  do  not  delay".  Soon after that, I sought the advice of a 
priest who suggested to me that I join a group of Sisters in the Ranchi area. 
I  declined  to  follow  this  advice because I wanted to go to a far place.  Then 
he  began  to  name  some  of  the  Congregations  to  which  I  kept  saying  “no”, 
until I heard him say SCN Congregation.  To that I said “yes”, though I had 
no idea about this particular Congregation.  I, being a nurse and the Sisters 
having  a  hospital,  I  thought  that  I  would  fit  in  with  them  well.  As  I  look 
back, it was God’s Spirit who helped me to choose the SCN Congregation.   
 
When  some  priests  and  Sisters  heard  that  I  was  going  to  join  the  SCN 
Congregation in Mokama, they discouraged me with the information that all 
the  Sisters  there  were  from  South  India.  They  frightened  me  saying  that, 
"You  will be the only one from Ranchi" and in reply I said, "Well, if I have a 
real vocation for God's service and mission, I will face it and go ahead.  God 
will give me the grace." 
 
I  travelled  alone  and  reached  Mokama  on  August  2, 1965.  As I met Sister 
Lawrencetta  I  knew  Mokama  was  the  right  place  for  me.  I  worked  until 
October  at  Nazareth  Hospital.  On  December  27,  1965,  I  entered  the 
postulancy  with  four  other  candidates  who  had  also  finished  their  nurses' 
training.  One of the candidates, Thankamma Xavier, a trained teacher from 
Kerala, who had arrived just before me also entered postulancy with us.   
 
One  of  my  happiest  moments  was  receiving  the  holy  religious  habit  and 
experiencing  the  hair  cutting  ceremony  on  the  previous  night  of  July  19, 
1966,  our  vestition  day.  I  felt  that I sacrificed my hair, offered my life and 
my  all  for  the  service  of  God's  people.  Many  Sisters  asked  me  to keep my 
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�maiden name, Celestina.  I told them that if I am changing my way of life, I 
would  also  like  to  change  my  name.  I  was  given  the  name,  Sister 
Rosemarie.  Teresa  Rose  Nabholz,  SCN  was  our  postulant  and  novice 
director.  During the last three months of our novitiate, Patricia Mary Kelley, 
SCN  took care of us since Sister Teresa Rose was appointed as the regional 
superior.  
 
The six of us took our First Vows on July 19, 1968.  I experienced great joy 
as  I  was  giving  myself  totally  to  God.  We  had  a  few months of a juniorate 
program  in  Ranchi.  I  took  some  art  classes  in  drawing,  painting  and 
making  baskets  from  bamboo  and  cane  at  Yogada  Mutt,  a  Hindu  ashram, 
opposite to our convent.   
 
As  a  Sister,  I  was  happy  to  be  assigned  to  Nazareth Hospital from October 
1968  where  I  worked  in  the  public  health  department.  I  prepared  visual 
aids  like  health  charts  for  teaching  the  public.  I  also  went  with  other 
student  nurses  to  visit  the  villages.  We  walked  to  the  nearby  villages  and 
used a vehicle to reach the far off villages.  The most common diseases that 
we  treated  were  diarrhoea,  dysentery,  fever,  cold,  cough,  typhoid, 
tuberculosis,  leprosy,  scabies,  anaemia,  etc.  Miss  Mary  Paul,  an 
experienced nurse who studied in Mokama was our supervisor and was very 
good to all of us.  Whenever we got an emergency call of a cholera out-break, 
we immediately rushed to the area with vaccine and other medicines.  Every 
month  we visited a mission station of Patna Diocese to attend to the health 
needs  of  the  people  extending  up  to  the  border  of  Nepal  in  North  Bihar. 
Most of these mission stations did not have a dispensary or religious Sisters 
to attend to the sick at that time.  
  
As  a  young  Sister,  in  June  1969,  I  was  chosen  to  be  with  Sisters  Ann 
Roberta Powers and Anne Philip Gnavally to begin a new mission in Chatra. 
We  had  a  large  rocky compound and in the cool of the evening, we enjoyed 
sitting on rocks to pray together. We named our house, Nazareth Niketan.   
 
Initially  we  had  only  three  rooms  with  an  asbestos  roof.  We  used  one  of 
those rooms as our living quarters.  The Blessed Sacrament was kept in the 
tabernacle in one corner with a kerosene lamp and it was partitioned with a 
curtain.  Our  personal  belongings  as  well  as  the  household  articles  were 
kept  in  the  same  room.  For  dining,  we  used  a  folding  table.  The  bathing 
room  and  toilet  were  outside.  There  was  a  small  outside  room  which  we 
used as our kitchen, cooking on firewood. 
  
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�We  visited  the  people  in  the  villages  to  encourage  them  to  send all of their 
children to school but they were interested in educating only their sons.  We 
persuaded  them  to  educate their daughters also by saying unless you send 
your  girls  to  school  we  will  not  admit  your  boys.  On  July  8,  we  formally 
opened  the  new  school  and  named  it  Nazareth  Vidya  Niketan.  On  the 
opening day we had thirty-six children for pre-primary and Class I.  We used 
the  two  rooms  and  the  veranda  for  conducting  the  classes.  All three of us 
taught in the school.   
 
One  day,  Sister  Ann  Roberta  began  to  bleed  heavily  from  her  nose  and we 
were  frightened  and  did  not  know  how  to  prevent  it.  I  gave  her  first  aid, 
then  gave  an  injection  and  finally  the  bleeding  was  controlled.  Every  now 
and then she had the same problem.  We had no hospitals close by and we 
did not know any doctor in the locality.  There were no travel facilities except 
an occasional bus service.  We were so happy to see the Gaya jeep stopping 
by  one  day.  Sister  Ann  Roberta  travelled  with  them  for  a  check-up  and 
treatment in Mokama.  
 
Once  when  Sister  Ann  Roberta had gone to Gaya for some school work, we 
heard  a  tiger  roaring  close  to our house during the night.  Anne Philip was 
not aware of it, though our beds were close by.  I woke her up and asked her 
if  she  had  heard  the  sound.  She  said  that  some  cow  must  be making the 
noise.  I  told  her  it  was  a tiger roaring and she responded, "Oh, tiger” and, 
unperturbed, she went back to sleep. 
 
From  Chatra,  ​I  went  to  Lady  Reading  Hospital  in  Delhi  ​for  a  year  of 
community health nursing in 1970.  ​When ​I returned to Chatra to continue 
the  same  ministry,  I  was  asked  to  do  the pastoral ministry for which there 
was a great need.  To prepare for the same I went to Tongo in Ranchi diocese 
for  catechetical  training.  SCNs  Mary  Juliana  Tuti  and  Ann  Moylan  were 
with me for the same training.  It was not easy for me to give up the nursing 
profession to take up the pastoral ministry as a full-time job.  I experienced 
an inner struggle of being pulled between the two ministries.  Besides, many 
of our Sisters were not convinced why a qualified nurse had to be in pastoral 
ministry.  The hospital community would have liked me to serve at Nazareth 
Hospital.  Sisters  Ann  Roberta  and  Teresa  Rose  supported  me  in  my 
decision.  Finally,  I  became  the  first  and  only  full-time  pastoral  Sister  in 
1971. 

   

We  were  very  happy  and  felt  privileged  to have our Mother General, Lucille 
Russell  visit  Chatra mission in October 1971.  Since we had only one room 
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�for  everything  and  as  we  were  playing  cards  together,  Mother  Lucille  said 
that  she  had never experienced eating, playing, sleeping, recreating, etc. all 
in front of the Blessed Sacrament.  We all had a good laugh.  Along with my 
companions, I made my Final Vows on July 2, 1972 in Mokama.   
 
We  had  CRS  (Catholic  Relief  Services)  'food  for  work'  supplies  for 
developmental  work.  We also distributed some of the warm clothes we had 
gathered  to  the  people.  We  visited  the  homes  of  the  students  as  well  as 
other houses in the villages, taking care of the sick and suffering.  We meant 
a  great  deal  to  the  people  and  they  approached  us  whenever  they  were  in 
any need, during day or night. I enjoyed my five years of ministry in Chatra.   
 
People used to gather in someone’s house when any priest from Hazaribagh 
came  to  offer  Mass  and  administer  Sacraments.  Chatra  parish  with  a 
resident  priest  was  not  established  until  1974.  From  the  time  we  were  in 
Chatra  we  took  care  of  all  the  spiritual  and  other  needs  of  the  people 
including the burial services for the dead.  All three of us had permission to 
distribute Holy Communion to the people.  Each Sunday, we had ​gaon girja 
(village  church)  para-liturgical  services  with  the  people.  Once  in  a  while a 
priest  from  Hazaribagh  would  come  to  offer  Mass  and  consecrate  enough 
hosts for the following weeks.  
 
My  third  assignment  was  to  pioneer  a  new  mission  house  in  Sale, 
Mahuadanr  in  1974  along  with  SCNs  Jean  Kulangara,  Marianne  Puthoor. 
Teresa  Rose  Nabholz,  SCN,  regional  superior,  accompanied  us  on  our  long 
journey.  For  the  blessing  and  inauguration  of  the  new  mission,  a  huge 
crowd  of  more  than  3,000  people  gathered  on  October  13,  1974.  Most 
Reverend  George  Saupin,  SJ,  the  bishop  of  Daltonganj,  officiated  at  the 
Eucharistic  celebration.  As  Sister  Teresa  Rose  and  our  guests  left  we  felt 
lonely  and  held  on  to  each  other  and  wept.  Mahuadanr,  which  had  no 
paved roads in those days, was our farthest village mission.   
 
In  the  beginning,  we  taught  in  the  Jesuit  village  school  along  with  doing 
medical  and  pastoral  work.  We  were  not  very  familiar with the area so we 
did  not  know  how  to  get  to  places.  We  helped with the retreat for Class X 
girls  in  the ​gaon girja near our convent.  One night as we were taking back 
the  Blessed  Sacrament  to  the  parish  through  the  fields  we  lost  our  way. 
After  walking  for  a  long  distance,  we  noticed  a  light  and  thought  we  had 
arrived at the parish.  We chuckled when we found out that it was our own 
house  where  the  village  girls  were  practicing  a  dance  for  the  harvest  feast 
Mass.  After a year of our being there, a resident priest was appointed to the 
parish.   
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In April 1975, Father Phil Crotty, SJ, the parish priest of Mahuadanr asked 
me  if  I  could  do  some  medical  relief  work  in  Sabagh village on top of a hill 
where many people were affected by a rare disease.  Many lives were lost in 
that area and some of the villages had not a single person living.  Many had 
to  go  on  foot  for  treatment  to  the  only  medical  facility  in  the  area,  the 
Carmel  Hospital  in  Mahuadanr,  run  by  the  Carmelite  Sisters  from  Kerala. 
The  doctors  could  not  discover  what  was  causing  the  many  deaths.  The 
Carmel  Sisters  had  taken  a  few  patients  to  ‘All  India  Medical  Science 
Hospital' in Delhi for investigation and treatment.  Since they had no Sisters 
to accompany me to the villages, I went with a girl as my companion to stay 
in  that  village.  Father  Crotty  came  with  us  with  food  supplies  and 
medicines provided by CRS.  Father also carried the Blessed Sacrament with 
him.  The people gave us an empty house in which to stay.  I made a place 
for the Blessed Sacrament in one corner of the room.  Every month, a team 
of  medical  personnel  from  the  hospital  came  to  the  villages  to  treat  the 
people.  For  four  months  I  stayed  in  that  village  to  look  after  the  patients 
and  feed  the  people.  They  were  instructed  not  to  eat  any  food  other  than 
what we provided because no one knew the cause of the many deaths.  The 
epidemic  drew  the  attention  of  the  central  government  in  Delhi  and 
supported the untiring efforts of the doctors and Sisters at Carmel Hospital. 
Research points to the toxic seed of the Gondli grain (a type of millet) being 
the cause of the epidemic. The poor of the region use the grain for food.   
 
In  1975,  the  first  parish priest, Father Barry, SJ, two catechists and I took 
interest  in  the  Birjias,  a  primitive  tribe  who  were  very  poor  and  illiterate. 
After  five  years  of  our  contact  and religious instructions, we had a Mass in 
the  village  with  Baptism,  marriage  blessing  and  Confirmation.  Now  they 
have  a  parish  of  their  own  in  their  area.  Children are being educated and 
they  have  improved  economically.  One  of  them  is  with  us,  Sushila  Telra, 
SCN. 
 
I  stayed  in  the  villages  with  the  catechists  for  a  couple  of  days  at  a  time. 
Every  evening,  we  gathered  different  groups  of  people,  youth,  women  and 
men,  separately.  We  prayed  with  them  and  had  discussions  about  their 
problems  and  what  they  could  do  together  to  solve  them.  We  organised 
various  groups  such  as  Sodality  for  youth and Catholic ​Sabha (council) for 
people  in  general  and  ​Mahila (​ women) Sangh  (group)  for  women  to  deepen 
their  faith.  We  also  conducted  retreats  for  them  from  time  to  time.  I was 
appointed  coordinator  of  the  Catholic  Women's  Group  in  the  deanery  and 
the Daltonganj Diocese.  I was one of the three religious Sisters appointed as 
consult members of the diocese.   
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In  1980  I  was  sent  to  Bakhtiarpur  Community  Health  Centre  to  conduct 
programs such as 'mother and child health', school health, village out-reach, 
home visits and vaccination at the centre, schools and in the villages.  I also 
helped  to conduct deliveries and to take night on-calls at the centre for two 
years.  
 
In  1982,  I  went  to  Sudeep, Bangalore for a three-month renewal.  After the 
renewal,  Sister  Marietta  Saldanha,  SCN,  the  coordinator  of  Sudeep,  asked 
me to help out in the day-to-day running of the place and I stayed there for 
seven months.   
 
The  royal  family  members  and  other  well  to  do  people  of  Nepal  sent  their 
children  to  study  in  Darjeeling,  India,  where  there  were  good  Catholic 
schools.  Because  of  the  quality  education  they  received  in  Darjeeling,  in 
1950,  King  Mahendra  of  Nepal  invited  the  Jesuits  of  Patna  to  open  an 
English  medium  boarding  school  in  Kathmandu.  The  Jesuits  in  turn, 
invited  the  IBMV  (Institute  of  the  Blessed  Virgin  Mary) Sisters, now known 
as  CJ,  (Congregation  of  Jesus)  to  begin  an  all  girls’  school  in  a  property 
adjacent  to  theirs.  That  was  the  beginning  of  Catholic  presence  in  Nepal. 
The  two  boarding  schools  were  known  as  St.  Xavier’s  and  St.  Mary’s 
respectively.  There  was  no  other  Catholic  presence  in  the  whole  of  Nepal 
before the SCNs were invited to Nepal by the Jesuits in 1979. 
 
When  I  was  called  to  discern  for  the  mission  in  Nepal,  Sister  Margaret 
Rodericks,  provincial,  told  me  that  there  were  some  Tribal  Catholics  of 
Indian  origin  in  East  Nepal  who  were,  “like  sheep  without  a  shepherd.” 
Since  the  SCNs  had  not  yet  gone  to  East  Nepal,  I  joined  the  Kathmandu 
community in January 1983 to learn Nepali and to get to know the people’s 
culture.  SCNs  were  in  discernment  to  move  to  East  Nepal  from  Godavari 
and Kathmandu at the request of Father Cap Miller, SJ, the episcopal vicar 
to  Nepal.  In  February  1983, SCNs Anne Marie Thayilchirayil, Ann Murphy 
from the US, Jean Kulangara and Tara Ekka moved to East Nepal.  For four 
months,  staying  with  Joel  Urumpil,  SCN,  in  Kathmandu  I  attended  a 
training  program  to  work  with  the  mentally  handicapped  children.  I  also 
had an attack of pneumonia so I stayed in Kathmandu for a few more weeks 
to recover.   
 
Wanting to wind up her pastoral ministry in Kathmandu, Sister Joel stayed 
a  few  more  months  before  we  moved  to  Dharan.  Joel  wanted  to  set  up  a 
dispensary  and  do  some  developmental  work  among  the people in Dharan. 
Since  that  was  not  feasible,  Joel  and  I  went  to  a  village  in  Damak  where 
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�there were many Indian Tribal Catholics working in the tea gardens.  I began 
my  pastoral  ministry  with  them  and  discovered  there  were  many  more  tea 
gardens  in  East  Nepal  with  a  Catholic  population.  They  consisted  of 
Uraons,  Santhals,  Mundas  and  Kharias  who had migrated to Nepal several 
decades  ago.  People  used  to  live  in  small  mud  huts  around  the  gardens. 
They  came  together  every  Sunday to pray and had the ​gaon girja without a 
priest.  Occasionally  a  priest  came  from  Purnia  parish  from  neighbouring 
India to offer Mass.  Once in a while, Reverend Cap Miller from Kathmandu 
also  came  for  Mass.  Whenever  we  had  the  Mass,  plenty  of  hosts  were 
consecrated  for  distribution  during  the  para-liturgical  services.  I  prepared 
the  people  for  different  sacraments.  Whenever  we  had  Mass,  the  priest 
administered the sacraments in each of these places.  I began to keep family 
records  of  all  the  people  who  received  the  Sacraments.  When  I  stayed 
overnight  in  the  villages,  they  were  very  hospitable  and  gave  me  their  best 
corner in the room.  I slept on a burlap mat on the floor which was cleaned 
with fresh cow-dung, not yet dry.   
 
On Ash Wednesdays, I prepared ashes from burning the coconut leaves and 
blessed it to take to the people in the villages and the tea gardens to remind 
them that it's the special season of Lent for prayer, sacrifice, confession and 
reconciliation, etc.   
 
One Holy Thursday, the priest could not come for the services.  We ourselves 
conducted the services of the day with washing of the feet of six men and six 
women,  a  custom  that  did  not  exist  in  the  Catholic  Church  at  that  time. 
Whenever  a  priest  was  available  during  the  Holy  Week,  we  had  Masses  in 
four different tea gardens on Holy Saturday.   
 
SCNs  Anne  Marie  and Ann Murphy were in Ilam, in the hills and Jean and 
Sarita  Manavalan were based in Dharan.  When Father Miller came to offer 
Mass  in  Damak,  we  got  the  opportunity  to  visit  our  Sisters  in  Dharan.  In 
Dharan we also went to the British camp for Mass with Father Miller.   
 
After Joel and I began taking serious patients to the Dharan camp hospital, 
I  got  a  free  pass  to  enter  the  camp  any  day.  The  matron  of  the  hospital, 
Miss  Stella  Mary,  became  friendly  with  us  and  she  took  good  care  of  our 
patients.  She  also  liked  to  stay  with  us  in  Damak  during  her  breaks. 
Whenever  I  was  home  in  Damak,  I  helped  Joel  with  home  deliveries  and 
literacy work.  
 
One  of  my  deep  faith  experiences  is  that  whenever  people were in any dire 
need, God took me to be with them.  This was especially true when someone 
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�became seriously ill, near death or in any other trouble.  I also helped them 
financially  from  the  travel  money  I  got  from  Father  Miller.  Many  of  them 
returned that money with gratitude.  I worked for six years in Damak.  I am 
proud  to  hear that now in each of those six places, there is a parish with a 
resident  priest  and  several  groups  of  religious  Sisters  are  working  among 
them. 
 
In  May 1986, I was assigned back to Nazareth Hospital in Mokama to work 
with  Sister Lucia Thuluvanickel and Reverend Dan Rice, SJ in the spiritual 
care  department.  For  the  first  time,  SCNs  had  established  a pastoral care 
department in the hospital.  In January 1987, Sister Mary Lynn Fields, SCN, 
helped  us  to  make  a  mission  statement  and  goals  for  the  spiritual  care 
department.  Our mission was to care for the total well-being of the patients 
and  their  family  members,  staff,  students,  employees,  criminals, 
drug-addicts,  alcoholics,  and  whoever  was  in  need.  This  experience  really 
was very enriching for my own personal growth. 
 
When there was a crisis in our Barauni mission I was one of the Sisters who 
was  asked  to  go for the flood relief work to Khagaria and Mansi for a week. 
We  had  lost  Sandhya  Baxla,  SCN,  during  the  flood  relief  work  in  Mansi  in 
August 1986.  
 
On  the  night  of  the  first  death  anniversary  of  Sandhya,  there was a rather 
major  earthquake  in  which  many  houses  and  properties  were  destroyed in 
North  Bihar.  The  administrator,  Sister  Bridget Kappalumakal, SCN, asked 
me  to  join  the  Catholic  Health  Association  of India group from Patna along 
with our health personnel to do relief work in Darbhanga for a week.   
 
I  coordinated  the  regular  8.30 am Masses and Holy Hour on Fridays in the 
hospital.  I  counselled  the  patients  both  at  their  bedside  and  in  my  office. 
Patients  were  extremely  happy  with  the  over-all  healing  they  experienced 
within  themselves.  All these experiences brought me closer to God and the 
people.   
 
In 1989, I was transferred to Sokho, a remote village mission in Bihar.  I was 
the coordinator of the house and in-charge of the pastoral and medical care. 
I also enjoyed gardening and cultivation.  Most of the time, the parish priest 
was  out  of  station  and  I  took  care  of  the  pastoral  needs  of  the  people.  In 
visiting  the  families in the villages I reached out to both the Christians and 
the  non-Christians,  alike.  I  prepared  the  married  couples  in  rectifying the 
inter-religious  marriages  and  brought  them  to  the  Catholic  fold.  I  also 
conducted  retreats  for  the  people  to  deepen  their  faith.  By  being  with  the 
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�people  I  learnt  the  customs, practices and their language, Santali.  We had 
two distinct groups of people to minister to, the Santhals and the Kharwars, 
a  very  primitive  group.  In  order  to  accommodate  both  groups,  we  had 
Sunday Masses either in Hindi or Santali.  
 
While  the  Bhagalpur  diocese  was  building  a  concrete  house  for  us,  we 
stayed  in  the  dispensary  as  our  mud-house  was  demolished.  After  the 
blessing  and  inauguration  of  the  new  house,  Nazareth  Sadan,  by  Most 
Reverend Bishop Saupin in January 1993, the Sisters, the parish priest and 
a priest from Belatanr mission, drove me to Mandair for my next mission.   
 
Mandair  is  situated  in  a  coal  mine  area.  We  stayed  in  a  village  house  in 
Manjalitard  away  from  the  parish  and  the  main  road.  I  worked  as  the 
pastoral Sister in the parish, helped in the small dispensary and also taught 
in  the  school,  according  to  the  need.  Various  Tribal  groups  had  migrated 
and  settled  there.  With  their varied backgrounds it was not easy for me to 
work  among  them.  At  this  time,  many  problems cropped up in our parish 
and  it  was  about  to  be  closed  down.  We  conducted  several  meetings  with 
the  people  and  at  the  end  it  was  decided  that  they  wanted  the  parish  to 
remain.  
 
Seeing  our  struggle  to  reach  different  villages  with  no  proper  road,  the 
parish  priest,  Reverend  M.D.  Abraham,  asked  the  SCN  provincial  whether 
the  Sisters  would  like  to  move  closer  to  the  parish.  He  gave  us  an  option 
that  the  parish  would  exchange  our  land  with  theirs  to  give  us  a  more 
suitable site near the road.  A concrete building was made for dispensary in 
the new place while we lived in Manjalitard village.   
 
In  1996​,  I  was  transferred  to  Biharsharif  for  pastoral  ministry.  Besides 
being coordinator of the community I took care of the hostel girls and taught 
Moral  Science  in  the  parish  school.  I also visited the nearby villages alone 
and  the  catechist  accompanied  me  to  go  to  the  far  off  villages  for  Mass.  I 
took  care  of  the  Catholic  women's  group  in  the  parish.  Biharsharif  was  a 
challenging mission for me as I did not get the needed cooperation from the 
parish priest.   
 
In 1999, from May to October, I helped out in the '​kishori' (​ adolescent girls) 
training program in Almora. After the training was completed I came back 
once again to the Spiritual Care department at Nazareth Hospital, Mokama. 
The hospital had no chaplain and I had to depend on the parish priest for 
Mass and Sacraments. When the hospital took the initiative to begin a ward 
to care for the HIV/AIDS afflicted persons in collaboration with the 
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�government and other NGOs in 2003, I took a counselling course in 
HIV/AIDS in Mumbai, Maharashtra in 2008 to work with them.   
 
Through  the  spiritual care department, I was privileged to serve all types of 
patients  and  their  relatives  until  the  decision  was  made  that  certain 
departments  of  the  hospital  would  be  closed  temporarily  from  June  2012. 
Sisters  Philomena  Kottoor,  vice-provincial,  and  Usha  Saldanha,  the 
administrator,  officially  asked  me  to  resign  from  the  hospital  in  August 
2012.  After having spent a total of sixteen and a half years in the spiritual 
care department it was very painful for me to move out of the hospital.  I felt 
my gifts in bringing healing and solace to the sick would be wasted away.  In 
fact,  I  felt  a  kind  of  uselessness  within  me,  belonging  neither  in  the 
community  nor  in  the  hospital.  It  took  me  some  time  to  overcome  those 
feelings  and  move  on  in  life.  I  continue  to  reside  at  Ashirvad  South 
community  in  the  hospital  campus.  I  like  to  work  in  the vegetable garden 
and  keep  myself  busy  with  the  visitors  who  come  to  our  house. 
Occasionally  I  am  called  to  the  hospital  for  counselling  patients  and 
continue  to  take  care  of  the  hospital chapel and the weekly Mass and Holy 
Hour.   
 
Ever  since  I  entered  the  community  in  1965,  I  have  been  happy  working 
with  people  of  many  different  languages  and  cultures.  I was well accepted 
by them.  I experienced God's presence, grace and blessings with me always. 
I  have  the  satisfaction  of  having  had  good  and successful ministries.  I am 
very  happy  that  God  helped  me  and  directed  me  to  enter  the  SCN 
Congregation and I am proud to be an SCN.   
 
In  my  fifty  years  of  religious  life,  God  has  walked  with  me  very  closely.  I 
recall  the  many  experiences  of  Jesus  being  with me and accompanying me 
from village to village, one tea garden to the next and from person to person 
wherever I went.  It was an assurance that Jesus is using me to carry on His 
mission here and now.  
 
I  am  so  very  grateful  to  my  God  and  my  community  for  giving  me  many 
opportunities  to  be  in  varied  ministries  and  places.  I  am  lost  for words to 
thank  God  enough  for  the  support,  encouragement  and  deep  trust  the 
community leadership has placed in me.   
 
Religious  life  is  a total self-giving and an offering of ourselves to God in the 
service  of  people.  In  living  out  my  vows, I lived a life of commitment, deep 
faith  and  brought  many  people  close  to  God.  I  have  always  tried  to  be 
faithful  to  God  and  my  community.  My  religious  life  is  based  on  prayer, 
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�sacraments,  deep  faith  and  trust  in  Christ and Mother Mary.  They are my 
source of life itself and from whom I draw constant strength and courage.   
 
Now  I  spend  a  good  bit  of  my  time  in  prayer  and  I  pray  very  specially  for 
each  Sister  and  her  family, needs of the Congregation, people in formation, 
Church and the world. 
 
Rosemarie Lakra, SCN   
 
Consent given orally to publish the story on August 16, 2017   

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                    <text>Sisters of Charity, Leavenworth, Kansas
Transcription of Sister Marie Madeleine Shonka
Interviewed by Jane Kenamore, June 29, 2017
Transcribed by Jessie Lehman, September 25, 2017

Page 1 of 16

JK: This interview is with Sister Marie Madeleine Shonka.
MMS: Yes.
JK: Ok. The interviewer is Jane Kenamore. We are at the Sisters of Charity of Leavenworth
Mother House in Leavenworth, Kansas, and the date is June 29th, 2017.
MMS: The year goes by.
JK: Sister Marie Madeleine, when and where were you born? [00:00:40]
MMS: I was born and raised in Chapell, Nebraska which is a small town in the western part of
the state, close to Denver and Cheyenne.
JK: Oh, it is. Ok.
MMS: Right in the corner.
JK: Oh, ok. Can you tell us about your parents and the values that they passed onto you?
[00:00:59]
MMS: Oh, yes. My mother was a staunch Lutheran, and my father was a staunch Bohemian.
(Laughs)
JK: A staunch what?
MMS: Bohemian.
JK: Oh.
MMS: Czechoslovakian. And we had a wonderful family life. They were very good. My mother
was very humble. My father was a plumber, and we were poor but we never lacked for love and
care.
JK: And your town was a very small town, I gather. [00:01:23]
MMS: 1,198.
JK: Oh, my gosh, yes. So, what was it like to grow up in a small town? [00:01:32]
MMS: You know, when you live in a small town you know everybody and everybody knows
you and you make friends, and you do all the things kids do in school. I worked in a soda
fountain at our corner drugstore and so I got to know a lot of people. Had a great life.

�Sisters of Charity, Leavenworth, Kansas
Transcription of Sister Marie Madeleine Shonka
Interviewed by Jane Kenamore, June 29, 2017
Transcribed by Jessie Lehman, September 25, 2017

Page 2 of 16

JK: Oh, that's good. Did your town have a Catholic school? [00:01:57]
MMS: We were part of a very small group of Catholics in Chapell, Nebraska at that point in
time. In fact, there were very few Catholic families. And one of my good friends was Pat
O'Connor who later became a Sister of Charity and her sister Margaret became a Sister of
Charity. And their brother became a Passionist Father. So, they were a strong influence in my
family or to me, to me. But I enjoyed living and growing with them.
One of the joys of my life was on Good Friday. I was one of the only kids in school that could
ask to be dismissed at 12:00 noon so I could say Stations of the Cross.
JK: (Laughs) That was lucky.
(Gap)
JK: You started by going into nursing training. Am I right on that? [00:03:00]
MMS: Yes. Yes.
JK: Why did you decide to go into nursing? [00:03:03]
MMS: I mentioned earlier that we were poor. And after I graduated from high school I wanted
to go to college but I knew that that was impossible. And it was about that time that the Cadet
Nurse Corps was started. And my mother heard it advertised one day on the radio. And I came
home from school and she said, "Honey, I think you should think about going into the Cadet
Nurse Corps."
So, I looked at St. Joseph Hospital in Denver and made my decision to, yes, I'd go, and so I
entered there in June of 1944.
JK: Oh, and you actually served in the military then? [00:03:40]
MMS: No, it wasn't the military really. It was a program to try to get people interested in
nursing because we were in the middle of the war. And it was free tuition. It was free uniforms.
It was free everything. So we were really God blessed at that point in time to have that
opportunity. I hadn't had an inclination to become a nurse but the opportunity was there and I
took it.
JK: Oh, good. So, was that your first experience with the Sisters of Charity? [00:04:13]
MMS: It really was. I knew very few Sisters in my life prior to that time. There were Sisters of
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during the summer to give us some classes in catechism and all, but they were the only nuns I
ever knew. So, I had no drawing to Catholicism as a nun.
JK: Can you describe your nursing training? [00:04:44]
MMS: Yes, I was fortunate. It was a three-year program, the hospital schools of nursing, and it
was very good. And I so admired… I really admired the Sisters. I think that's where I came so
involved with the Charities because I watched the nursing nuns, and they were really the core of
hospitals at that point in time. I think the nursing nuns really built the hospital system in this
country. Powerful women.
JK: That's true.
MMS: Yes, it is.
(Gap)
JK: It was a three-year program and was there anything notable in it? [00:06:01]
MMS: I think we produced wonderful bedside nurses in the hospital schools of nursing. Later on
when I became an educator in nursing education the country was going through the process of
changing nurses from three-year programs to four-year programs with your BSN and that sort of
thing. And we struggled for years to keep the schools with the three-year programs open. But it
really wasn't fair to our graduates because they ended up with their RN but it took them two
more years to get their BSN. So, our hospital program, St. Francis, St. Joseph, St. Vincent's all
phased out during that period of time.
JK: Oh, that's a good idea.
MMS: Yes, it was. We had women of vision. Really Sister Eugene Teresa McCarthy was one of
the leaders in moving nursing education from strictly bedside care to the hospital where they
were teaching women more how to interact with people and that sort of thing.
So, the hospital programs prepared us to take care of the body, and the college programs helped
us to take care of the whole person.
JK: Oh, yes. That's good. I'm assuming… I'll ask the question anyway. What attracted you to the
SCLs and going into religious life in general? [00:07:26]
MMS: Just my experience at St. Joseph's and my admiration for the Sisters that I saw working
there. And they were so… They were just great women. They were generous and competent and
kind and strong, prayerful. I mean they set a real pace for me.

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JK: Yes, good. Who were your early mentors in SCL? [00:07:50]
MMS: Sister Alice Marie Schwieder was a lifelong friend. And some of my other friends, Sister
Joan Allard and Sister Macrina Ryan, Mary Julie Casey, just some of the wonderful women I
met along the way. They weren't all in nursing but they were wonderful Sisters.
JK: Oh, good. When did you enter specifically? [00:08:15]
MMS: I entered the community on February the 11th, 1947. And that was three days before the
Sisters… When we entered, there were only five of us, and all the people in the novitiate were on
retreat at that point in time. So, we walked from the noisy, blustery world into a world of silence,
and we looked around and we wondered what we had gotten into. So, here we were.
And so the retreat was over on February 15th, and some of our Sisters made their first vows then
and so life went on.
JK: Did most of the classes begin in September? Is that why yours was small? [00:08:55]
MMS: No, no. We entered in February and most of the classes entered, the large classes entered
on August 15 of each year.
JK: Oh, I see.
MMS: And that's when the girls were out of college and the summer schools and high school
etc., etc. And at that point in time many women entered as you well know. So, the five of us
were outliers.
JK: Right. Yes, you were. But I guess that mid-year entry was probably small usually.
MMS: It was wonderful. Oh, yes. It didn't last too much longer. You know after a few years
they started to straggle in most times but not as group in February.
JK: Oh, I see.
MMS: So, the main entrance date for a while was August to my knowledge. And, again, you
know, I'm 91. (Laughs) So, I might be off on my timing.
JK: You were ideally prepared for your early ministries. What were your positions at St. Francis
in Topeka, St. Vincent's or St. V's in Billings and St. Joseph's in Denver? [00:10:04]
MMS: When I finished my… I made my first vows in February of 1950, I was sent to St.
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nights, and I didn't want to educate anybody. So, the first thing I did was to be assigned to
obstetrics. And, oh, my. We had more precipitations than the world dreams.
Then I was assigned to night duty, and that was another growing experience. And the education
part was something that I finally latched onto and continued in my progress.
JK: Oh, good. And then you went to St. Vincent's in Billings? [00:10:50]
MMS: Yes. I went to St. Vincent's, and I was director of the school of nursing, but I also was
teaching on the side a few classes. And I loved working with the young women, because they
would come in, and, you know, kids 18 and 19 are a little bit scatterbrained and all that sort of
thing. But as the years progressed and they worked ahead in their educational programs, they
matured beautifully, beautifully. It was a joy to watch that growth.
JK: But you were young then, weren't you?
MMS: Yes.
JK: How old were you when you were director of nursing? [00:11:24]
MMS: Oh, 24, 25, 26, something like that.
JK: You were director of nursing. Were many people working for you?
MMS: Director of the school of nursing.
JK: Oh, school of nursing.
MMS: School of nursing. School of nursing.
JK: Ok, but even still.
MMS: Well, it was a challenge.
JK: Yes, I can imagine. What were some of the challenges that you ran into? [00:11:44]
MMS: Finding my way around as the director.
(Laughter)
MMS: And working with the young women, and making sure that our educators were good
educators and just life in general. But it was great. I loved my hospital life.

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JK: Oh, that's good.
MMS: Yes.
JK: Did you like Billings as well? [00:12:03]
MMS: Yes, yes. Billings is a lovely town. I was there for about seven years, I think. And then I
was asked to go to St. Joseph Hospital in Denver for a year and to take some courses at Regis
College, I think. And at that point in time they asked me to get prepared in some of the math
courses and that sort of thing. And then the next year I was assigned to go to St. Louis
University, and I got my education and master's in Health Services Administration.
JK: Ok. So, did you like your program at St. Louis U? [00:12:52]
MMS: Yes. Yes. I really have liked just about everything I've had to do, and I just would kind of
roll with the punches, you know. I guess that came from Chapell, Nebraska.
(Laughter)
JK: That's right. (Laughs) How did you decide to go…? Well, you were kind of heading toward
hospital administration, but how did you decide to go fully into it? [00:13:20]
MMS: I really didn't decide. It was kind of decided for me. At that point in time we were asked
if we would consider that, and so I was asked to go to school and get my master's in hospital
administration so I did that. So, it wasn't my choice.
JK: Right.
MMS: It was my challenge.
JK: So, one of your early experiences was as assistant administrator for St. John's Hospital in
Santa Monica.
MMS: Yes.
JK: What did you learn from this experience, and how did it prepare you for your later role?
[00:14:00]
MMS: Well, I was in California for 41 years and I loved every minute of it. And when I got
there in 1968 as an assistant administrator to Sister Mary Eloise Paul (phonetic) I was assigned to
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And then as the years went on between '68 and '73 I started going to medical staff committee
meetings and was allowed to sit in on board meetings and things like that. So, Sister was kind of
helping me along to get acquainted with a broader picture.
JK: She was.
MMS: Yes.
JK: That's great.
MMS: Yes.
JK: Yes. So, when did you become the director of the hospital? [00:14:45]
MMS: Well, the title at that point in time, in 1973, was executive director, but it was one of the
times during our lifetime in constant change. But we were looking for executive directors and
CEOs and presidents, and the community was trying to get things organized so that we all would
be in sync in our many hospitals across the country. So, it was kind of an evolutionary flow. But
it finally ended up with being president and CEO.
JK: You must have appreciated the fact that you were a Sister at that point because in the
nonreligious world women, despite the fact that… well, the Women's Movement kind of began
in 1969 but in 1973 women weren't in leadership positions such as you were. [00:15:39]
MMS: I really didn't think about that.
JK: You didn't think about it.
MMS: No.
JK: Interesting.
MMS: I really didn't. I just didn't. (Laughs)
JK: Yes, interesting. So, you were in Santa Monica.
MMS: Yes.
JK: So, you must have run into a lot of celebrities of one sort or another. [00:15:56]
MMS: We did. We had a lot of people who supported St. John's over the years and were very
good to us. Mr. Sinatra had some programs for St. Johns. And Jimmy Stewart and his wife,
Gloria, were on our board of directors for a period of time.

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JK: Oh, really?
MMS: Yes. And Irene Dunne, and most of the people listening to this won't even know who I'm
talking about because they're so long ago, but Irene Dunne was one of the people who really
helped St. John's get started. She helped our Sister Mary David especially to get St. John's
moving and raise money for St. John's etc. We've been blessed with good friends and many,
many wonderful lay people. We've had so many wonderful lay people on our boards and in our
foundations over the years, so it was an exciting time to be with people.
JK: It must have been.
MMS: Yes, it was. And I really enjoyed getting to know them and working with them.
JK: So, what was Frank Sinatra like? [00:16:56]
MMS: Around us he was very nice.
(Laughter)
MMS: I guess he has another history.
JK: I think so, yes.
MMS: I remember particularly R.J. Wagner who was very good to St. John's too, and he had
just become acquainted with St. John's, oh, many, many years ago.
JK: Is that Robert Wagner? [00:17:20]
MMS: R.J. Wagner, Robert Wagner, uh-huh. One morning he called… They called me to come
down to the Emergency Room that he was down there and his mother was a patient, and his
mother died right in front of us.
JK: Oh, no.
MMS: And poor old R.J. was shaken but her eyes were wide open. So, I closed her eyes and I
said a prayer with him and then we kind of helped him to… He had never been faced (phonetic)
with something like that really. He was pretty busy in his career and that sort of thing. It seemed
to help him.
So, years later he wrote a book and of course the book contained many of his activities as a
younger person. He was a real ladies man etc., etc. And one day one of the people who worked
with me at Seton Center was reading his book and my name was in it.

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JK: Oh really? [00:18:16]
MMS: She poked her husband and she said, "Bill, Bill. Look at this. Sister's name is in here."
And so R.J. put the incident of closing his mother's eyes into his book. So, I think something
touched him.
JK: Yes, obviously.
MMS: I think the Holy Spirit.
JK: Right. And who were some of the other people you mentioned? [00:18:37]
MMS: Oh, I don't know. There were so many that were so good to us and most of them really
weren't high powered, but Mr. Campion... People who worked in big business in California were
good to St. John's. Conrad Hilton, I mentioned before, Baron Hilton. Some of the people in the
city who were prominent were always very good to St. John's and assisted us on boards and in
the foundation.
JK: That's good. So, in 1994, I think, the Northridge earthquake took place.
MMS: Sure did.
JK: So, can you describe the earthquake and its affect on the hospital? [00:19:20]
MMS: Ok. Well, I wasn't home the morning of the earthquake. I was back here in Leavenworth
for a board meeting. And my COO called that morning and said, "Sister, this is a terrible
earthquake. You'd better come home." So, I finally got home about six o'clock in the evening.
And I drove from the airport back to the hospital.
And I drove around the hospital and it was severely damaged. Our entire north wing was
severely damaged. They had to evacuate the nursery. We had babies in intensive units. They
evacuated all the people into our main wing for security purposes. The elevators weren't working
so the men had to carry patients from the fifth floor downstairs into another wing of the hospital.
So, people were truly heroic and so thoughtful and so good. And they just all stood up and were
counted. It's amazing how brave we can be when we're called to do that.
So, anyhow, the hospital, as I said, was severely damaged. And the inspectors from California
came down right away, and they said that you have to close the hospital…
JK: The whole hospital.
MMS: …and rehab this facility.

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JK: So, during that period of time we had to let all of our employees go.
JK: Oh, really.
JK: So, we had over 600 people, and we gave them all their benefits and all their payment and
that sort of thing. And that was in about May, I think, or maybe earlier, that all of our employees
were going. And the only facility that remained open during that time was the John Wayne
Cancer Institute which was housed in the building across the street. And so they were able to
carry on their clinics and their activity during this time. But those were the John Wayne
employees that were there and all of ours were gone.
JK: Where did you send your patients? [00:21:24]
MMS: Where did we send them? We had to have them evacuated to… Many went to Cedars.
Many went to UCLA. Many went to Daniel Freeman. It was a whole day of evacuating the
patients from the hospital. The ambulances were lined up. And it was well-organized. I must say
that, you know. We were God blessed that everything went as well as it did. And nobody was
killed or injured at St. John's during that time.
JK: That's good.
MMS: Yes. It was very good. So, during the summer… I'll just continue for a minute.
JK: Please.
MMS: During the summer our COO and our personnel director and our finance person and the
leadership team of St. John's were working, and we were getting ready to reopen as the hospital
was being prepared to close down and to raze the north wing. So, we finally were stabilized and
were able to reopen the hospital in September of 1974, and on that day 69 percent of the people
who came back were the people we had to let go.
JK: Oh, that's great.
MMS: Yes. They wanted to come home. I'm rambling. (Laughs)
JK: So, you had to do a lot of fundraising, right? [00:22:48]
MMS: Yes, we did. Yes we did.
JK: And in a short time.

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MMS: Yes. Well, you know there was a period of time when people were looking at St. John's
about whether we should… should we rebuild or should we move in to ambulatory care or
should we do this or should we do that. And the people, our board of directors and the people
who had supported us for so many years, were so anxious for us to rebuild and carry on.
So Sister Mary Kathleen Stefani was our community director at that point in time, and she came
out for a board meeting and she heard the passion and the desire to really rebuild and so she
authorized our rebuilding and getting started to see what we could do. So, at that point in time
our foundation's total effort was in raising over 100 million dollars because our first estimate of
rebuilding was 150 million. Eventually, over the years, as the building went on and the raising
went on the total cost of the project was around 500 million, but the 100 million got us off and
started.
JK: That got you back in business.
MMS: It got us back in business. Yes, indeed. So, we had the architects and the building
committees and the construction types and…
JK: And you did all that in nine months? [00:24:07]
MMS: No, not nine months. But just so many people were there to help us, you know. And the
building committee evolved over that period of time, 'cause we had to get the architects, and we
had to get the construction types and that sort of thing. But we had very bright guys on our
committees there, the building committee, etc. etc. And they were entrepreneurs, and they were
architects and construction types and that sort of thing. And they helped us to develop the vision
that we had for St. John's of the future which was to be, at that point in time, a smaller hospital.
At our first point in time our greatest number of patients was 551. Then over time we got down
to 350 at the time of the earthquake. And when we reopened the hospital we had 300 beds.
JK: And you don't need as many beds with the new…
MMS: We were going through that period of time when people were looking at ambulatory care
and outpatient clinics and things like that.
JK: Right, right. But to get a…
MMS: The medical staff was really a support in all that because we had wonderful obstetricians
and cardiologists and surgeons etc. The medical staff was outstanding. Still are today. Even
though there's so much transition in healthcare and so many people have to go here or to go there
because the grass looked greener, our sole supporters were still there, and they just held St.
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JK: That's fantastic. One of your awards, one of many, I'm sure, cited the following: You
"ensured St. John's was able to sustain a potentially devastating nine-month closure after the
1994 Northridge earthquake, and, moreover, pioneered the situation into an opportunity to build
for tomorrow and improve healthcare delivery through the west side."
You already answered the question about the staff. You had to let them go and I'm sure there
was… but 60…
MMS: 69 percent.
JK: 69 percent returned, so that's phenomenal. [00:26:37]
MMS: On the first day.
JK: Yes. And what were some of the renovations that you did that brought the hospital into the
21st Century? [00:26:46]
MMS: We had long since looked at ambulatory care and we were working with doctors in
getting the offices tied in closer to St. John's. And we strengthened our orthopedic program. We
strengthened our cardiology program, our cardiac surgery program, our obstetrics program, and
internal medicine. We had a plethora of doctors who were truly experts.
We used to tease that we were the crown jewel of the hospitals. And at that point in time Sister
Marianna Bauder was at St. Joseph's in Denver and they thought they were the crown jewel. So
we called St. Joseph's St. John's East and she called St. John's St. Joseph's West. So there we
were.
JK: (Laughs) Can you think of anything specifically that you added that was particularly
forward-looking? [00:27:49]
MMS: I think it was my spirit that I was not ever going to stuff up (phonetic). I mean we worked
diligently to keep things moving and as people would become depressed, you know, you go
through periods of up and down and that sort of thing, but we had to keep it going so we did.
JK: Good. Good.
MMS: It was God.
(Laughter)
MMS: Yes, truly.

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JK: That's good. So, you're back here now. It must have been sad to leave Santa Monica after
being there for so many years. [00:28:23]
MMS: Well, you know, there's a time when you know it's time to go.
JK: Right.
MMS: And when I decided it was time to move on I didn't know what I wanted to do, so I saw
an ad in a paper about home nursing, and I worked with a Sister of St. Joseph in Kansas City.
(Gap)
MMS: It was the director of a program. Sister Loretta Marie, who was a lifelong friend, invited
me to come live with her. So, I thought, well, I'll live with her and work in the home nursing.
And I tried that for a while but I was uncomfortable. I didn't like going into people's homes, and I
felt very uncomfortable in that work. So, Sister said, "Why don't you come work at Seton?" And
I didn't know what I wanted to do at that point in time. So, she said, "I'll put you to work in the
pantry."
So, now I'm working in the pantry backup room. We set up all the commodity bags, and we set
up the cosmetic bags, the hygiene bags. And so I'm really blessed. I'm a happy camper.
JK: Oh, good.
MMS: You know I work about four or five hours a day.
JK: Perfect. [00:29:48]
MMS: And I like what I'm doing. And I love the people we're taking care of. And I love the staff
that's working with us. They're multi-national, and they're just wonderful people—truly blessed.
Sometimes you go out in the parlor and you'll meet somebody sitting there, and you know they
don't have two nickels to rub together. "How's everything going?" "I'm blessed."
JK: That's good. It must be really gratifying to be working among the people who need that so
desperately. [00:30:22]
MMS: Yes, yes. I'm happy. Yes. And we do a good, good work.
JK: Oh good.
MMS: We served over 1800 families at Christmastime last year.
JK: Do you really?

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MMS: And we give them food, and we give them toys, and we give them clothing, and our
volunteers are just extraordinary. They're just extraordinary. They're so helpful in everything we
do.
JK: So, do you give them clothing throughout the year or only at Christmas? [00:30:50]
MMS: No, we have a thrift shop. It's open four days a week. And they can come in, you know,
and some can come in and buy clothes for 50 cents or a dollar or two dollars or what have you.
And sometimes we'll get some very wonderful clothing, and they're able to come in and buy nice
things and leave the place looking like a million dollars.
JK: Oh, yes. That's good. Do you think you'll ever retire? [00:31:19]
MMS: Oh, I'm probably retired right now.
(Laughter)
JK: No, you're not.
MMS: Well, I'm as close to that, I think, as I'll get. Retirement just means doing what you can
with what you've got and so that's where I am.
JK: And so when you joined the SCL I'm sure you didn't have any idea that you'd be heading up
a large hospital. [00:31:45]
MMS: I used to stand in the hallway at St. John's and say, "My God, what is somebody from
Chapell, Nebraska, U.S.A. doing at St. John's in Santa Monica?" I truly did.
JK: I'm sure you did. What were your career expectations when you joined the SCL? [00:32:06]
MMS: I'm not sure. I don't know. At the time that I entered the community young women could
be nurses or secretaries or what else?
JK: Teachers.
MMS: Teachers, exactly. And today they can go to the moon. So, with the declining numbers of
young women they're providing service in different ways than we did at that point in time.
JK: So, in a way, there are benefits. In many ways there are benefits of the new culture.
[00:32:45]

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MMS: Absolutely. They have many opportunities. Sometimes those people having multiple
opportunities and do exciting or extraordinary things. They kind of forget there's a God in
charge, you know, and so you see people kind of drifting. And my hope and prayer is that when
the time comes they'll come back. And I believe that especially with nieces and nephews.
JK: Oh, really, yes. Yes. How has the SCL community helped you to accomplish all that you
have in your life? [00:33:26]
MMS: Their support, their prayers, their willingness to let me serve, their guidance. I have a
wonderful community.
JK: You do. That's true. Do you think you would ever have accomplished all you have working
as a woman alone? [00:33:45]
MMS: I don't know. I don't know. I think if that would have been my choice I would have done
the best I could. So, God provides.
JK: So, how did the SCLs contribute to your love of life? [00:33:59]
MMS: Contribute to what?
JK: To your love of life?
MMS: They love life. They all love life. They're just such good people. Yes. They're prayerful,
good, inspirational role models.
JK: And how have you contributed to the community over the years? [00:34:24]
MMS: Oh, I think I've had a spirit that's been good. Yes. I think I had a spirit. I think I still do.
JK: I'm sure you still do. So many of the women that we've interviewed, well, all of them
actually, seem to have that spirit. [00:34:41]
MMS: Yes. You know we're going through great transitions at this point in time—what's going
to happen to religious communities and where are we going etc., etc. And it's up to God, 'cause I
won't be around to see where it goes, but I sure want to have the spirit to let them go. Is that it?
JK: I think that's it. Yes, I think that's it.
MMS: All right.
JK: We didn't cover this. Why do you think fewer people enter the order today? [00:35:20]

�Sisters of Charity, Leavenworth, Kansas
Transcription of Sister Marie Madeleine Shonka
Interviewed by Jane Kenamore, June 29, 2017
Transcribed by Jessie Lehman, September 25, 2017

Page 16 of 16

MMS: The reason I said before. They have so many opportunities today, others. But they end up
serving one way or another.
JK: Right. Yes.
MMS: So, the options are great and numerous and exciting.
JK: And also in the community as well.
MMS: Oh, yes. Isn't that wonderful? You know when Sisters left the teaching they were able to
go into social work, and they were able to go into religious work or whatever, counseling,
mentoring and that sort of thing. And so all of us have benefitted by the changes that have come
along. Been a lot of battles along the way about I don't like this; I don't like that, but you know
eventually we all get into the game and we roll with whatever direction we're going.
JK: We didn't talk about Vatican II and the affect it had on the community and actually on you
personally. [00:36:14]
MMS: '68 was a … Well, I've been in religious life more in post-Vatican that I was in preVatican, and so at the time I was really kind of… I didn't know what to think. I didn't know what
to think but I… As the community was making changes and we were doing things differently we
adapted you know. I don't think I fought it. I think sometimes I didn't like it, but I don't think I
fought it, the changes and all. So, I think I've been able to move ahead.
JK: Was that true for all of your friends in the community? [00:36:55]
MMS: No. We had a time in our community when sometimes if you weren't dressed as a nun
you weren't really too accepted. I mean, you know, they didn't like the changes in dress or the
changes in some things. But eventually God gave us all the grace to get over that and to continue
on being great women. So, that's the name of the game.
JK: That's true. All right. Do you have anything else you'd like to talk about? [00:37:24]
MMS: No. I'm finished. I probably talked too much already.
JK: No, you haven't.
MMS: You'll have a hard time screening this one.
(Laughter)
MMS: Thank you.

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